Feb 02, 2013, 02:05 AM
Good metal detector for finding gold in southern Arizona?
I've been out of the md game for awhile so I'm just starting to do research on which detector I'd like to get. My budget is about $1,000.
The last one I had was a Fisher F75 LTD. It was an excellent detector, albeit a little complex but I did like the fast ground balancing. I upgraded from a Tesoro Cibola to the F75 because I was looking for more features and at the time I wanted a really 'hot' detector for relic hunting which is all I used the F75 and Cibola for.
Eventually I had less and less time for detecting because of work so I sold the F75.
Long story short I'd like to buy another one but this time I'd just like to use it just for finding gold nuggets in dry washes out here in Arizona. Not so much interested in the old rusty stuff anymore.
There's a lot of mineralization in the soil out here so with my budget in mind what detector do you all recommend? I'd love to maybe try a Minelab this time around but I'm don't know if my budget will get me near a respectable model.
Thanks in advance for the advice!
Feb 02, 2013, 11:02 AM
Tesoro Lobo Super Traq - Made in Prescott, AZ
Fisher Goldbug II
Those four machines are gold prospecting VLF favorites.
Feb 02, 2013, 11:11 AM
Do you recommend saving up a little more ($1500?) and buying a more expensive unit? Or can you do a pretty good in the price range I'm in with the detectors you've listed?
Feb 02, 2013, 01:48 PM
No, I do not. The next step up from one of those four VLF machines, is a Minelab SD or GPX pulse induction machine. All the other PI machines (Whites; Garrett; Tesoro) do not have enough power or filtering circuitry to be any better than the VLF machines. Expect to pay $2,500-$4,500 for a used Minelab.
Originally Posted by GreyGhost
Feb 02, 2013, 02:37 PM
Your forgot the Gold Bug Pro:-)
Originally Posted by Terry Soloman
"The most inspiring thing about gold, is not the value, but under magnification, the true beauty of each piece. They are truly like snowflakes that never melt." Oakview2
Feb 02, 2013, 04:31 PM
Minning Tools: 12" Trommel, Royal Drywasher, Viper-Vac, Miller Table, Blue Bowl, Footprints, Google Earth, These Are Just Tools As You Still Have To Be On The Gold
Where in Arizona are you located... I am in the same boat your in. I have narrowed my choices down to, Tesoro Lobo Super Traq and Gold Bug Pro. Just bought a pair of Sun Ray Pro Golds headphones at an estate sale for $10.00 that are new and never used that will be used on one of these MD's.
My plan is to use a dry washer / crevices vacuum in the summer months and use a MD in the mild winter months here in Arizona. Your best bet would be to join a local club and get a feel on what others are using. Youtube would be a good place to gather some info. on the MD's that Terry recommended including the Gold Bug Pro he fogot to put in his group of MD's.
Both of these videos the user is using the Tesoro Lobo Super Traq
Gold Bug Pro Videos
Last edited by AzViper; Feb 03, 2013 at 05:30 PM.
“He who builds their own equipment has a better understanding of what works and what does not work”
Feb 02, 2013, 11:22 PM
I'm never without my Gold Bug 2. Only a couple places were to hot for it. And that was verrry hot ground.
Feb 03, 2013, 12:08 AM
Wow great videos, very inspiring. PM inbound.
Originally Posted by AzViper
Feb 03, 2013, 01:56 AM
I'll probably take a hard look at the Gold Bug Pro. I know Fisher's have a great reputation although I wasn't overly impressed with the build quality on my F75. It felt kind of cheap and plasticky compared to the Tesoro I had although the trade-off is that they're lightweight.
I also want to research the White's GMT more because it looks like a good combination of the Made in the USA build quality of a Tesoro with the added benefit of having a screen.
All the detectors mentioned in this thread are easily within my price range too so I guess I need to just keep narrowing down.
Feb 03, 2013, 03:47 AM
im learning the GMT is on the top of my list over the other two .
Feb 03, 2013, 08:17 AM
I have used my TLST for many years and it sure works great in trashy areas which my great gold bug 2(fantastic unit in trashless areas) and Gold Bug Pro do not as no real disc. Tesoro guaranteed for LIFE and that is indeed a HUGE plus as they just completely rebuilt--with new coils too-my 28 years old GS unit-absolutely free-so cool-John
Last edited by Hoser John; Feb 03, 2013 at 08:21 AM.
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Feb 03, 2013, 09:09 AM
Really? Are you looking at a Whites dealer's list? LOL!
Originally Posted by H-2 CHARLIE
Feb 03, 2013, 10:42 AM
Hello all, I am not sure if John is saying that the GB Pro will not work well in trashy areas, if he is then that is absolutely wrong. I would match up my discrimination on the GB Pro to any other VLF Gold detector. I already have and my friends have done the same and are all very satisfied with the GB Pro. They have changed over from White's, from GBII, Tesoro, Eureka Gold, Garrett AT Gold and others. I understand the comment about looking "plastiky" , The GB Pro looks like a kids toy compared to the others but it is a fantastic gold detector with a fantastic discrimination. I would also highly reccomend using the new 10x5 Eliptical Coil made for the GB Pro. To be clear I am not talking about the Black 11 inch coil that looks like a black snowshoe. My thoughts, TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS
Feb 03, 2013, 11:08 AM
Peace Through Superior Firepower
Two other alternatives, if you have to have a PI but you can't afford the Minelabs, is the Garrett Infinium and Whites TDI's (TDI, TDI Pro, TDI SL 7.5/12).
Feb 03, 2013, 11:21 AM
Hello all, here is a post that made on a previous topic. This was about the GB Pro but has some general information. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS
Hey Neo, the coil that I told you about, 10 inch eliptical, is the only other coil that I would use on the GB Pro if you are detecting for gold. Coins, relics, that is a different thing. The Bug is my only weapon for shallow ground and exposed bedrock. This goes for tiny crumbs to larger nuggets. I have found crumbs to four inches and a six dwt nugget at twelve inches. The six just happened to be on its belly. If you are wanting to get the in between then you need to have two detectors and one should be a PI. You will not cover all ground effectively without both a VLF and PI. I have heard all the talk about the new 5000 and the tiny pieces people are are starting to find with it and I would say that these people need to learn how to operate a detector. I have been finding grainers and smaller with my 3000 and a eight inch coil for years. I am sure that the 5000 has many improvements over my unit but to me that is not one of them. This is just my opinion. You must learn your machine, VLF or PI. I will also tell you that almost all the gold I have detected over the years in the Clear Creek area could have been found with a VLF. In fact much of that gold was found with a GBII, Eureka Gold, and Tesoro. I am now using the GB Pro because it a very good VLF with newer technology. I am finding more gold again because the discrimination works and this unit will punch through mineralization better than what I had before. However...
However, I still go over some ground with the PI. There has been a long standing argument that a VLF will hear some stuff that a PI will not. I am not a technician but I have put from fifteen hours a week to over forty hours a week for the last twenty or so years on the units mentioned above. Yes a VLF will hear some nuggets on edge better, will hear some specimen pieces in quartz better, will hear some irregular shaped pieces better and will find sub-grain gold better. The break is that my PI will find a few sub-grainers that are extremely shallow but will go twenty or so inches on a two dwt nugget in hot ground that my bug cannot come close to.
One other item is that when you get used to a coil and then change it out you are basically starting all over as far as what you are hearing. I have been doing this a long time and I really like to get the optimum coil for the job and stay with it for this reason. I prefer a seventeen inch eliptical mono on my 3000. It is surprising how many tiny pieces I hear at depth with that thing. Some people may disagree but you will get a different signal when changing coils. The response time may be slower or quicker and there is a difference.
Another item is headphones, when using headphones you are going to get a distorted signal opposed to not using headphones. I dont care what anyone says you have to have a good set of headphones that suits your individual hearing. Yes, you want a quality set of headphones that offers all the good stuff and you will pay for that quality but you better make sure you have the ears to hear it otherwise it is doing you no good whatsoever.
I would stick to either the five inch coil or ten inch eliptical and listen to it, they do work, they are optimized for the GB Pro. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS
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