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  1. #1
    us
    Dec 2012
    Concrete, WA
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    Video comparing Minelab's Eureka Gold, Gold Bug 2 and Gold Bug Pro

    This video has me changing my mind about which machine to buy for
    nugget shooting. I've heard from very good sources that the GB2 and GBP
    are very close in performance, but that I would be giving up a small amount
    of sensitivity to the smaller pieces of gold with the GBP.

    This chap seems to have taken steps to be somewhat scientific in his
    comparative testing, and based on his results the GB2 had much better
    depth (at least on the air test) on picking up the gold samples. The difference
    with the 40mg sample was substantial, with the GB2 picking it up at 5 CM
    (nearly 2 inches), and the GBP could only pick that sample up at 2 CM.
    A 3cm difference works out to about 1 3/16" of an inch deeper, and for
    those little small pieces of gold the extra depth the GB2 was picking them up
    at what is, essentially, twice as deep as the GBP.

    Here's the video I watched, and would appreciate any thoughts as to inconsistencies
    that might have skewed the results, etc. I really like the GB Pro, but don't
    mind the manual ground balancing if it truly makes that much difference
    in performance.



    Mike
    Mike (aka Dizz)

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    Mar 2011
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    Can't go wrong with either but I'd personally get the GB2. It's the king of VLF gold detectors.
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    DizzyDigger, ''skewed the results'' yes an airtest will skew the real performance of any detector. I would not reccomend anyone buy a gold detector based solely on an air test. Targets, gold, in untouched ground can be a whole different signal especially in mineralised conditions. You should buy from a dealer that is willing to let you see real results on real ground. I am not saying one detector is better than the other but any detector needs to be used in real time conditions before making a decision. Mineralised soil, wet or dry soil, size of target, type of target, so on, so on, makes a big difference and these differences do not show up in an air test. Just my opinion, TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

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    us
    Dec 2012
    Concrete, WA
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertNuggets View Post
    Can't go wrong with either but I'd personally get the GB2. It's the king of VLF gold detectors.
    I'm getting that sense more and more. Thanks for the great input!

    Quote Originally Posted by trinityau View Post
    DizzyDigger, ''skewed the results'' yes an airtest will skew the real performance of any detector. I would not reccomend anyone buy a gold detector based solely on an air test. Targets, gold, in untouched ground can be a whole different signal especially in mineralised conditions. You should buy from a dealer that is willing to let you see real results on real ground. I am not saying one detector is better than the other but any detector needs to be used in real time conditions before making a decision. Mineralised soil, wet or dry soil, size of target, type of target, so on, so on, makes a big difference and these differences do not show up in an air test. Just my opinion, TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS
    Can't argue with that one bit. Thank you Ray. With my background in EMC I should have considered that
    signal response in an air test certainly can't match the added impedance of the mineralized soil, etc.

    Had many detectors over the years, and got great advice from Dave J. about the GB2 and GBP.
    He had suggested the GBP due to it's ability to still coin shoot, however the more I consider that I'll be
    nugget hunting with the machine 99% of the time, the extra work manually ground balancing
    doesn't seem like a drawback. I learned back in 1968 that keeping a detector in balance is the
    only way for it to perform at it's full potential.

    That settles the question for me...GoldBug2 it is.

    Dizz

    (I swear, Gold Fever's worse than re-living puberty!)
    Last edited by DizzyDigger; Mar 01, 2013 at 03:12 AM.
    Mike (aka Dizz)

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    were our countrymen." ~~ Samuel Adams, 1776

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    The higher the frequency, the better the air test.

    The higher the frequency, the more in ground performance will suffer in relation to the air test.

    It is a generality but that is the way it is. Air tests are great for proving what a detector can't do (if it won't pick it up in an air test not likely to pick it up in the ground) but air tests can mess you up otherwise. The Gold Bug 2 air tests great but I have not seen nuggets floating in the air since I quit drinking.

    I honestly do not even have to watch the video when I see a 5" round DD being compared to a 6" x 10" DD being compared to a 4" x 6" concentric coil. How many variables can we mess with here?

    My favored testing method is haul detectors into the field, find something with one, then try others on target.
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  7. #7
    us
    Dec 2012
    Concrete, WA
    Nokta FoRs Gold, a Gold Cube, 2 Keene Sluices and Lord only knows how many pans....not to mention a load of other gear my wife still doesn't know about!
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    Steve/Terry. Thanks for the great input, especially the add'l info about air vs. ground.

    Unfortunately, the closest Detector shop to me is 80+ miles from home, so I'll be
    making this buy sight unseen. I've had Fisher machines in the past, and there's no
    worry about quality, etc., it's just a matter of selecting what's going to work best
    for my gold hunting.

    Gonna make a few phone calls tomorrow and see if I can find out some more
    details. Research always pays off in the end!

    Mike
    Mike (aka Dizz)

    "If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest
    of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick
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    were our countrymen." ~~ Samuel Adams, 1776

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    Hey, I am a Gold Bug 2 fan. Do not get me wrong on that! It is great at what it does but it is not a depth demon.
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  9. #9
    us
    Dec 2012
    Concrete, WA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Herschbach View Post
    Hey, I am a Gold Bug 2 fan. Do not get me wrong on that! It is great at
    what it does but it is not a depth demon.
    Have you been reading my mind Steve??

    Was just thinking about that today, as the penetration at higher frequencies would be reduced
    somewhat in comparison to a lower frequency. I'm sure Fisher is pumping all the power to
    that coil that they can, and still have it remain stable. Having the larger 5"x10" elliptical for
    the GoldBugPro and a bit lower freq. might also make a huge difference in depth when hunting
    more open ground and away from the "tight spots".

    As far as prices go, I can get the GBP with both the 5" round and 5"x10" elliptical coils for
    approx. $650, and the GB2 is only one coil (but a damn good one!) and $750. I've still got
    a few days to make a choice, as I'm waiting for the CZ6a to sell so I can proceed.

    Decisions, decisions...

    Mike
    Mike (aka Dizz)

    "If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest
    of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick
    the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you
    were our countrymen." ~~ Samuel Adams, 1776

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  10. #10
    au
    Mar 2013
    Batemans Bay
    Currently: White's GMT, Fisher Gold Bug 2. Fisher Gold Bug Pro, Fisher Gold Bug SE, Fisher F70, Garrett AT Gold, Minelab X-Terra 705, Minelab Eureka Gold, Whites GMZ, Minelab GP Extreme, GP 3000, Mine
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    I'm right with you Mike, down here in Australia, trying to make a decision between the GB 2 and GBPro (with two coils) lol.. when i read "not a depth demon" i think OH CRAP! lets go with the GB Pro.. But then i think how much of a difference in depth will that 5" DD or 5"x10" make? @ 19kHz over 71kHz with the 6" or 10" coils of the GB2. are we talking inches? cm? mm? for nugget shooting. I'll be doing a fair bit of bedrock shooting, old creek beds etc... (not a relic hunter nor coin shooter)

    I have a detector buying headache..

    - James
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    us
    Dec 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausgoldhunter View Post
    I'm right with you Mike, down here in Australia, trying to make a decision between the GB 2 and GBPro (with two coils) lol.. when i read "not a depth demon" i think OH CRAP! lets go with the GB Pro.. But then i think how much of a difference in depth will that 5" DD or 5"x10" make? @ 19kHz over 71kHz with the 6" or 10" coils of the GB2. are we talking inches? cm? mm? for nugget shooting. I'll be doing a fair bit of bedrock shooting, old creek beds etc... (not a relic hunter nor coin shooter)

    I have a detector buying headache.. - James
    Best cure for that is 2 aspirin and a pint of Squire's Amber Ale, sleep on it and flip a coin in the morning
    (after you wake up a bit......)

    Here I was choosing between the two Fishers, and now Terry had to go and post that excellent video on the capabilities
    of the Eureka Gold. Thanks Terry...

    After watching that video (and many more on the Eureka Gold) it seems the Eureka
    Gold as a bit of a step up both in price and capability. I like the idea of the three freq.,
    and that 60kHz freq. is right up there with the higher freq. of the GB2, plus you've
    also got 6.4 and 20kHz when hunting deeper. Only downside I can find so far is that
    there are not many optional coils. Minelab does show 8" and 11" round coils, but it
    would be nice if there was a smaller 5" coil for working those tighter spots.

    For those who remember the show; as Vinnie Testaverde used to say "I'm so confused!"

    Well, the extra cost is not a deal-killer for me, and it won't hurt a bit to wait a couple weeks.
    My dad used to say that when there's no emergency, it never hurts to sit back and study
    on something for awhile. In this case I think he was dead-on target. I'll let y'all know what
    the ultimate choice was once I get it on order.

    Dizz
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    of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick
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    were our countrymen." ~~ Samuel Adams, 1776

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  12. #12
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    Mar 2013
    Batemans Bay
    Currently: White's GMT, Fisher Gold Bug 2. Fisher Gold Bug Pro, Fisher Gold Bug SE, Fisher F70, Garrett AT Gold, Minelab X-Terra 705, Minelab Eureka Gold, Whites GMZ, Minelab GP Extreme, GP 3000, Mine
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    I've got quite a bit of experience with the ML Eureka Gold, My wife purchased it about 12 months ago.. at first we were both really impressed with its performance..
    the 6.5khz 20khz settings are very powerful good depth.. however the second you switch to 60khz all the GOOD goes out the window.. depth is gone, sensitivity is iffy..

    I've read that the 60khz setting is "Soft" whatever that means... Either way, Sarah has had success with the Eureka pulling a .883 Gram nugget Friday afternoon4
    She just had to 1 up my .444gr i scored with the GP 3500, She enjoys rubbing in the fact that i paid $3200 for my machine, and she gets better results..

    Anyway, I truly believe the Gold Bug 2 is a better detector for the money. The gold bug pro might go deeper, but will it detect those tiny pickers?

    I'll take Experience over specifications any day!..
    Lend us more of your wise words Steve!

  13. #13
    us
    Jan 2010
    Redding, Ca
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    OK fellas, you are starting to talk about big coils, etc now. We were talking about VLF's for gold. I loved my GBII and my Eureka Gold, now I use the GB Pro. VLF's are only going to make you xxxxxx happy. If you are going to be taking this hobby on in earnest you will need a good PI, several out there, and a good VLF. In my opinion if you are already wanting to get a larger coil or a unit that will accept more coils you are getting away from the basics. All three of the units mentioned are fantastic on ''bedrock" gold. That is baically all my VLF is used for. For example if you get a WOT for the Eureka Gold you may hear a signal missed with the smaller coil, however I would bet that the signal was probably a tad larger and would have also been picked up by a PI. Also if there are pieces the same size the PI would continue to pick them up at a bit more depth leaving the WOT out in the cold. I hope this example will help.

    I have found literally pounds of dinks all over with my GB II. I have done the same thing with the Eureka Gold. I have been using the GB Pro the last two years as my primary VLF simply because to me it is just as sensitive to tiny gold as the both of the other two units however it has worked at many locations where the other two failed. In Nevada's basalt fields both gave me trouble years ago. In California's serpentine areas both gave me trouble. In Arizona's iron littered zones both gave me trouble. I have been able to go over much of the same ground with the GB Pro and get more gold out, easier. The GB Pro stays balanced better, I can work under powerlines better, I can use it in the water and with the advent of this new five by ten eliptical coil it will punch far deeper. To be clear, I am not talking about the eleven inch black relic coil. These are my opinions on the three units mentioned. Remember, the type of terrain, brush also comes into play when making a selection for a gold detector. These are two considerations that are big to me as I hunt in stuff most people shy away from. This is also why I do not even consider the other VLF's on the market because they have too much stuff to hang up on.

    As I stated above I used the Eureka for many, many years. I am not sure what they mean by soft on the 60 ban. I can and have found just as much smaller gold on the 60 ban with a very sharp signal. I did find that while using the 60 ban I had to change my tone variance and volume adjust a tad.

    All three units are capable of finding pieces so small that it would take five to ten dinks to make a grain, not a gram, this is small gold we are talking about. Again, these are my opinions. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausgoldhunter View Post
    Lend us more of your wise words Steve!
    I hate compromising. I have two Gold Bug 2 detectors (the second is just in case they stop making them so I have a backup). 6" and 10" coils. And because I agree with Ray I have a Gold Bug Pro with 5", 10 elliptical, and 11" elliptical. And I have a F75 SE with 13" Ultimate coil that consistently gets an extra inch on the Gold Bug Pro on large gold so I have to keep it. I also have the 5" DD, 6" concentric, and 11" DD for the F75.

    If I had to have just one I would keep the Gold Bug Pro, but it would bother me knowing there are times I would want the other two. Why have just one? Whenever I hunt with other people I almost automatically use something different then they do. If I hunted with Ray and he had his Gold Bug Pro, if I was expecting small gold I would be using my Gold Bug 2. If I thought there would be bigger gold, I would probably use my F75. That way I might hit gold he would miss or vice versa, and working together we increase the odds. And no interference issues to worry about.

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    I'm going to throw out one not on the list. GMT or it's cousin the MXT rocks! I have actually found more gold in North Carolina using a GMZ (yes a GMZ! I sold it because it was just too automatic for me.)
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