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    White's Goldmaster 24K vs. Minelab Gold Monster 1000?

    Has anybody done a field comparison of the two machines? Not looking to start any arguments. Just curious about the two machines. Have seen a lot of Gold Monster videos, but very few Goldmaster 24K videos.

    Thanks,

    Jeff
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    I don't have either machine but am looking to get a new VLF for nugget shooting and have researched both extensively. I've not seen anything about the two being compared in the field that I trusted enough to make me want one over the other but what I have found out is that while both do the same job they are very different machines. The Gold Monster is a ground balance and go machine, there are only a couple of settings for the user to choose from, the 24k can be used either as a ground balance and go machine or there a many more settings the user can customize to his liking. I especially like that the 24k has an adjustable threshold, when I'm working next to a noisy river or creek that is something I need with my hearing. I really don't think you can go wrong with either machine, the GM is a proven gold finder and the 24k is the latest technology with a new ground balance system that from what I've read is really good.
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    YES! They were tested side by side at Bill Southern's Nuggetshooter Palooza at Jackass Flats a few months ago. The "new" Whites is simply a repackaged GMT. Very capable, but nothing new. The Goldmonster kick its butt on depth, and sensitivity to small nuggletts. The microprocessor in the 1000 is NEW and changes the game. Apples and Oranges.

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    I've read a couple of comparisions and they seemed very close? At least with the Monster it definitely has some history and a LOT of users, time, and GOLD under it's belt? I'm new to nugget shooting relatively and I absolutely love my Monster and it's an absolute pleasure to swing, a very easy machine to learn and bangs on the tiniest gold. You won't have any problems along the river if you use headphones. I run mine up in the hills mostly using the speaker only and it can go very loud if you turn up the volume and it doesn't seem to run down the battery. It's also nice (imo) to be able to hunt without headphones and cords getting hung up, etc. Battery life is also very good. The machine is very fast. Here's my smallest piece found with the Monster with the circle around it....other pic is first/last seasons totals, all with the Monster....

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    And that is why I said "I've not seen anything about the two being compared in the field that I trusted". The Jackass Flats test was flawed to say the least, the guy with the 24k was new to the machine and not from the area, and going up against guys with years of experience using the GM1000 on their home ground. I'm sorry but to me that's more of a setup than a comparison. And if the 24k is a "repackaged GMT" why then does it have new features like a new ground balancing system and more power to the coil. That is not a repackaging, they added new features on an already good gold detector.

    Bottom line is both detectors are very capable and made by reputable companies with a history of making great VLF gold machines. If you want a pick up and go machine I would choose the GM1000. If you want a machine that once learned, could give you better results due to being able to customize to the soil you're working, the 24k deserves a look. I honestly don't believe you can go wrong with either detector though.

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    maybe this will help ya some?

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    Don't own either machine, but the above link is worth a read, and all of the information posted here so far is indeed interesting.

    I'm not sure this has been covered yet, but from the people I know that run the Monster, the learning curve seems to be substantially less than that of the 24K.

    Jeff, the only reason I bring this up, is I have no idea what your level of experience is with detectors. Are you a seasoned nugget shooter, or are you just beginning? The reason I ask is many people new to the pursuit of gold nuggets with a detector get discouraged by the learning curve, by the amount of time needed in the field, by the foreign nature of hunting nuggets vs. hunting coins and artifacts (if that's what you've been doing). So, as Hoser John says, many detectors wind up in closets, hardly ever seeing the light of day.

    If you are an experienced nugget shooter, then I'll leave it to those that know either machine well, but if you're just beginning, I understand that the Monster is simple to use, so that equates to getting out of the gate much faster if you're new to nugget hunting, and the Monster is now a proven platform as well, having been out longer. (Not that the 24K might not be better at some things or maybe even better at many things, but for a quick startup to get finding gold, the Monster is a better choice from everything I've been told by those that use them.)

    All the best,

    Lanny
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneguy View Post
    maybe this will help ya some?

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    Sorry, link deleted, it violates our rules, you can use PMs.
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    I have looked at both machines, out of interest and not because I am buying one anytime soon. I really don't need another detector. From what I have learned, I would probably get the Monster. I like the idea of less features and ease of use, on what seems to be a very capable machine. I don't tend to use the extra/custom features on my other detectors. Nothing wrong with the other detector either. I am sure if you put your coil over most detectable nuggets, that either one will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenJ View Post
    And that is why I said "I've not seen anything about the two being compared in the field that I trusted". The Jackass Flats test was flawed to say the least, the guy with the 24k was new to the machine and not from the area, and going up against guys with years of experience using the GM1000 on their home ground. I'm sorry but to me that's more of a setup than a comparison. And if the 24k is a "repackaged GMT" why then does it have new features like a new ground balancing system and more power to the coil. That is not a repackaging, they added new features on an already good gold detector.
    L
    Bottom line is both detectors are very capable and made by reputable companies with a history of making great VLF gold machines. If you want a pick up and go machine I would choose the GM1000. If you want a machine that once learned, could give you better results due to being able to customize to the soil you're working, the 24k deserves a look. I honestly don't believe you can go wrong with either detector though.
    Allen, Terry S is a well known, experienced detectorist. I also call him a close friend. That being said, it is refreshing to see someone, yourself, that has taken the time to do some research. Too many here take the word of us older salts as gospel. I will pay more attention to your posts. I am giving you the highest compliment! ( But, please be gentle on him ( tsk tsk). TTC
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryC View Post
    Allen, Terry S is a well known, experienced detectorist. I also call him a close friend. That being said, it is refreshing to see someone, yourself, that has taken the time to do some research. Too many here take the word of us older salts as gospel. I will pay more attention to your posts. I am giving you the highest compliment! ( But, please be gentle on him ( tsk tsk). TTC
    I completely understand and wish to apologize to Mr. Soloman, reading my post back to myself today I can see it does look harsh to me also. I should have taken more care the day I wrote it so please accept my apology sir. Thank you Terry C for pointing this out to me also, I don't ever want to known as an unreasonable person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenJ View Post
    I completely understand and wish to apologize to Mr. Soloman, reading my post back to myself today I can see it does look harsh to me also. I should have taken more care the day I wrote it so please accept my apology sir. Thank you Terry C for pointing this out to me also, I don't ever want to known as an unreasonable person.
    Allen, I saw nothing wrong with your response to Terry. Straight talk, but not unreasonable. Terry is somewhat biased against White's and rarely has anything good to say about their products. That said, I consider Terry a friend, and value his contributions, though I take his opinions of Whte's products with a grain of salt. (or maybe two)...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    Allen, I saw nothing wrong with your response to Terry. Straight talk, but not unreasonable. Terry is somewhat biased against White's and rarely has anything good to say about their products. That said, I consider Terry a friend, and value his contributions, though I take his opinions of Whte's products with a grain of salt. (or maybe two)...LOL
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    We all have our biases, yet, we all have something to contribute. If we all thought alike, we would all be robots and then this site would not be. Good solid debate is NEEDED because that is how we move forward. Tnx. TTC
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenJ View Post
    I completely understand and wish to apologize to Mr. Soloman, reading my post back to myself today I can see it does look harsh to me also. I should have taken more care the day I wrote it so please accept my apology sir. Thank you Terry C for pointing this out to me also, I don't ever want to known as an unreasonable person.
    Hey, I am super cool with all of this! My opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Allen was not with us when I went out with Debbie (from Minelab), to a couple of old mines and a cabin site up the San Domingo wash. The Whites machine is a good machine, and in the right hands will find a lot of gold. Now, the "new ground balancing system," to me, is just lipstick on the old ground balancing system - no perceptual differences or advantages in actual use. The microprocessor in the Goldmonster however, is able to really track in bad ground, and even cues the Greenhorn user to re-ground with a couple of pumps when the mineralization dramatically changes. The "more power to the coil" claim is true, but is a bit of a red herring, because in field tests next to the GMT, and the Goldmonster, it showed no advantage whatsoever.

    Anyone that follows my posts knows I dislike Whites. I think they are overpriced, over hyped, and I really don't like their dealer tactics. Whites machines can find anything all the other machines can find, but I'll never buy one again. Well, that is my confession, but I would rather have the Goldmonster 1000 as my VLF nuggetshooter simply because it is a better machine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    Hey, I am super cool with all of this! My opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Allen was not with us when I went out with Debbie (from Minelab), to a couple of old mines and a cabin site up the San Domingo wash. The Whites machine is a good machine, and in the right hands will find a lot of gold. Now, the "new ground balancing system," to me, is just lipstick on the old ground balancing system - no perceptual differences or advantages in actual use. The microprocessor in the Goldmonster however, is able to really track in bad ground, and even cues the Greenhorn user to re-ground with a couple of pumps when the mineralization dramatically changes. The "more power to the coil" claim is true, but is a bit of a red herring, because in field tests next to the GMT, and the Goldmonster, it showed no advantage whatsoever.

    Anyone that follows my posts knows I dislike Whites. I think they are overpriced, over hyped, and I really don't like their dealer tactics. Whites machines can find anything all the other machines can find, but I'll never buy one again. Well, that is my confession, but I would rather have the Goldmonster 1000 as my VLF nuggetshooter simply because it is a better machine.

    And Terry S must also admit that I'm better looking! TTC
    Last edited by TerryC; Mar 14, 2019 at 05:56 PM.
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