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  1. #2701
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    Hello Lanny,
    The appearance of that ground is most interesting and yes the upended slate is a trap worth inspecting and also Yes, as the plates are opened what is between them drops further down. An interesting conundrum to reason out!

    I've spent some serious time looking for a similar deposit of mountainside, layers of slate, that had become lodged in a river bed as when it came back to my mind I realized that the openings between the plates would have plucked heavies from the flood waters during those important times of high water.

    Also, as I examined your photo, I noted the rounded rocks as obvious river rounded items and was reminded of my three month long 'camping trip' in 2011 when I came across this section of historical riverbed that is slowly rotting out of a hillside of accumulated dirt and roots.
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ID:	1657307 Rounded rocks, concretion's especially at the top of the photo. Place's and sights before my eyes and the stories within the sights that were revealed to my mind as I thought about just What I was looking at. Special times out there! Now, just what has taken place over the last seven years to this emerging historical riverbed from when my photo was taken, though maybe not much?
    Last edited by 63bkpkr; Dec 03, 2018 at 05:42 PM.
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  2. #2702
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanny in AB View Post
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    In the above picture, the bedrock is a black slate, with some of it being very hot to detect, but the beauty of working this bedrock that was hand-mined in the 1800's is that the bedrock is friable (no, not in a pan on high heat) meaning the bedrock is arranged in perpendicular sheets. You will see a reddish-orange colour centre-left of the photograph, and that piece of protruding bedrock is rounded from stream weathering many, many eons ago before it was buried to be preserved as an ancient channel. Slightly above it and to the left, you should be able to pick out plates (sheets, etc.) of bedrock leaning to the left. If you have any experience with this type of bedrock, there are spaces between each individual plate or sheet, and this is where the gold was trapped. The interesting thing is that sometimes the gold is down deep, and other times there's a heavy concentration on the surface and within the first three of four inches of the bedrock (depending on whether the plates continued deeper or were only arranged in a pattern over more solid underlying bedrock) with nothing farther down.

    However, once I started to use Minelab PI's, I had an advantage over other VLF users that had detected and hammered the bedrock before me as my PI's could see much deeper into any deeper or larger gaps, and I was able to retrieve many sassy nuggets that hadn't seen the light of day since the dinosaurs stomped across the ancient stream placers.

    Nevertheless, if you've never chased nuggets in such rock, it's a challenge as every time a sheet is pried open to get to the gold, it drops, then when you try to get to it again, it drops again . . . . Quite the exercise in patience by the time the nugget is finally corralled.

    All the best,

    Lanny
    You are so right, rocks are not friable, I tried!

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    eyeball.
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  3. #2703
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    LOVE yours as well!!
    lol,
    Thank you kind sir, (smiling from ear to ear.)
    In due time you'll find that it would have taken less effort to follow up on advice than it takes to find out you really ARE wrong most of the time.

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  4. #2704
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeball View Post
    Ditto.
    Now the pics have arrived, they give me a yearning to the old days of actually being there, so many memories and so many years gone by...my my.
    Thank you for the reboot Lanny, wonderful stuff.
    eyeball.
    In due time you'll find that it would have taken less effort to follow up on advice than it takes to find out you really ARE wrong most of the time.

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  5. #2705
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    Hokey doodles!
    I have come to the end of your thread! What am I to do now??

    Ahh, go check out Eagles writings, I'll be back! eyeball
    In due time you'll find that it would have taken less effort to follow up on advice than it takes to find out you really ARE wrong most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeball View Post
    Hokey doodles!
    I have come to the end of your thread! What am I to do now??

    Ahh, go check out Eagles writings, I'll be back! eyeball
    Well worth the read, enjoy!

    He left us a wonderful legacy, so all the best,

    Lanny
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63bkpkr View Post
    Hello Lanny,
    The appearance of that ground is most interesting and yes the upended slate is a trap worth inspecting and also Yes, as the plates are opened what is between them drops further down. An interesting conundrum to reason out!

    I've spent some serious time looking for a similar deposit of mountainside, layers of slate, that had become lodged in a river bed as when it came back to my mind I realized that the openings between the plates would have plucked heavies from the flood waters during those important times of high water.

    Also, as I examined your photo, I noted the rounded rocks as obvious river rounded items and was reminded of my three month long 'camping trip' in 2011 when I came across this section of historical riverbed that is slowly rotting out of a hillside of accumulated dirt and roots.
    Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	1657307 Rounded rocks, concretion's especially at the top of the photo. Place's and sights before my eyes and the stories within the sights that were revealed to my mind as I thought about just What I was looking at. Special times out there! Now, just what has taken place over the last seven years to this emerging historical riverbed from when my photo was taken, though maybe not much?
    Herb,

    It looks like you've got some channel deposit material of some type. Was there any glaciation in your area? Rocks tumbled by glaciers have five corners (at least, that's what a geologist told me), and river rock will be rounded with no corners or far fewer anyway (what I was told). However, I've captured many a sassy nugget from ancient glacial stream beds. The secret is to test to see what the channel was carrying, and if it proves up, go for it. Some are rich, others are better for filler in road work.

    I hope you get out there again and find some more of that beautiful California gold.

    All the best,

    Lanny
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  8. #2708
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    Hi Lanny, I love it
    "Some are rich, others are better for filler in road work" and I know this to be SO correct. Just because an old stream bed is rotting out of a hillside does not mean there is gold there!

    I'm looking for work in my area of endeavor as it is more likely to provide me with a roof over my head but at the same time I am exercising to bring my physical strength back up to what I need it to be "out there". I need to be fit regardless of what is happening in my life so I'm headed that way...……..63bkpkr

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  9. #2709
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanny in AB View Post
    Well worth the read, enjoy!

    He left us a wonderful legacy, so all the best,

    Lanny
    Thank you Sensei , I'll be eyeballing the thread for updates, you can take that to the bank!
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    Old Santy Crashed His Sleigh One Night

    On Christmas eve of ‘62,
    Well, things was lookin’ mighty blue.
    There’d been a crash, a wreck all right
    A prairie mishap one dark night.

    But let me backtrack just a bit
    So you can ponder all of it.
    One special night so long ago
    Found Santy Claus all set to go.

    Away up North one winter’s night,
    The sky was filled with stars all bright.
    And on that Eve, old Santy flew
    His magic reindeer sleigh, it’s true!

    But later on a storm arose,
    The worst one ever I suppose,
    The wind commenced an awful blow
    That filled the air with ice and snow.

    Old Santy couldn’t see at all,
    And then his sleigh began to fall.
    His reindeer froze, then couldn’t fly
    No matter how they fought to try.

    So down it went, the sleigh and deer . . .
    This filled old Nick with dread and fear
    ‘Cause in his sleigh were all the toys
    For countless wishful girls and boys.

    A dreadful drop, a jarring crash,
    All Christmas hopes it seemed to dash.
    Old Nick was groggy, light of head
    And mighty lucky he wern’t dead.

    The racket woke a skinner old
    A muleteer if truth be told.
    Snug in the fort he’d heard the sound
    Of something crashing to the ground.

    Jake left his bed all safe and warm,
    In Benton’s fort assailed by storm,
    Then grabbed a lantern off the hook,
    Threw on his boots to take a look.

    No other souls awoke that night
    The soldiers, freighters, slept right tight.
    So Jake took off to look around
    For what had crashed into the ground.

    The snow had drifted rather deep
    Since he’d retired for his sleep.
    So through the gate he left to see
    The site of such calamity.

    Outside the fort, an awful sight
    Revealed itself by lantern light,
    A busted sleigh and reindeer too!
    Old Santy Claus was turnin’ blue.

    Montanny winters sure are cold,
    They favor steely men and bold.
    So Jake the skinner acted quick
    To save those reindeer and Saint Nick.

    The deer he quickly tucked away
    Inside a stable filled with hay.
    And by his fire he propped Saint Nick.
    But things were lookin’ mighty sick

    ‘Cause Santy Claus was out of it.
    His reindeer too, the whole durn kit!
    Who now to take the gifts and toys
    To all those wishful girls and boys.

    Yes, Jake was in an awful fix!
    He needed stuff like magic tricks
    To find a way to save the night
    And get old Santy’s sleigh in flight.

    A thinkin’ some, he shook Saint Nick
    To see if Santy had a trick
    To help him on his new-found quest.
    Yet, Santy didn’t look his best.

    But all at once, in Santy’s hand,
    Appeared a bag of northern brand.
    And on it words, “Pure magic dust”,
    Jake knew right then this was a must.

    For in the back, a stable stout,
    Held eight old mules. They’d help him out!
    Those mules could fly, with magic dust,
    And Jake had earned their life-long trust.

    So in a flash, out back he flew
    To coax his mules that job to do.
    No purdy names his mules they had
    ‘Cause Jakey’s mules was mostly bad.

    As Patch, and Bob the oldest two,
    Why any livin’ thing they’d chew.
    They’d tear a chunk from hide or hair
    And once they whupped a grizzly bear!

    While Mike and ornery, nasty Bing
    Would kick their hooves at anything.
    A dance girl once had flitted past
    And caught herself a hammered blast.

    And Patch who had a taste for beer
    Had once romanced a long-horned steer.
    Old Sam possessed a nasty mood
    He’d use to pitch off any dude.

    But Jack was just an ornery sort
    A little wide, and awful short.
    Now Jenny, she was sort of cute
    To skinner Jack, that old galoot.

    So Jack approached his fractious crew
    And let them know just what he’d do
    By cussin’ loud, with swears and such,
    If troubled times they brung him much.
    Then findin’ harness, tack and kit
    Jake started singin’ songs a bit.
    ‘Cause every skinner oughter know
    Some songs to sing to start the show.

    His mules perked up, their ears they cocked
    And on their heels they gently rocked
    For singin’ soothes the savage beast
    Or calms it down, a bit, at least.

    So Jake commenced to sing a song,
    It wasn’t loud nor awful long,
    But just a shorter sort of thing
    That Jake dreamt up that night to sing.

    “Yippy ki-yi-yippee, ki-yippee ki-yew
    My home’s in Montanny, the gold is here too,
    Yippy ki-yi-yippy, ki-yippy ki-yay
    My home’s in Montanny but Santy I’ll play.

    Yippy ki-yi-yippee, ki-yippee ki-yee
    My home’s in Montanny, but Santy I’ll be.
    Yippy ki yi yippee, ki yippee ki yew
    My home’s in Montanny, but this job I’ll do.”

    Then Jake began to sprinkle dust
    A needful thing, a surest must!
    Them mules, their eyes grew mighty wide
    As wings they sprouted on each side.

    Like Pegasus they rose right quick.
    That magic dust worked mighty slick.
    Alarmed, Jake staked them to the trees
    To stop them flyin’ off like bees.

    Yet on the ground lay Santy’s sled,
    All bent and lookin’ awful dead.
    But magic dust is sure strong stuff.
    A pinch or two was just enough

    To perk that sleigh and make it shine.
    Now Santys ride was lookin’ fine!
    The toys were scattered in the woods,
    But Jake corralled them children’s goods.

    He set them back in Santys pack,
    That Christmas Eve all dark and black.
    Off to his shack Jake softly trod
    Where Santy gave his head a nod

    To give permission to old Jake
    On Christmas Eve those toys to take.
    A buff’ler robe Jake swiftly found
    And wrapped it tightly all around.

    Then up he climbed into that sleigh
    With mules hitched up to fly away.
    Those brutes of his looked mighty calm
    That magic dust, a healin’ balm.

    The storm abated at that time,
    And to the sky that sleigh did climb.
    Without a hitch of any sort,
    Jake cleared the walls of Benton’s fort.

    Well Jakey made old Santy’s run
    On Christmas Eve, and it was fun
    A slidin’ down those chimleys black
    With Santy’s loaded goody pack.

    He stuffed the socks and left the toys
    For all the little girls and boys.
    He snarfed the milk and cookies too.
    And sometimes sampled stiffer brew

    Left out for him by kinder souls
    With Cheery Christmas warm-up goals.
    A snort or two, but nothin’ long,
    With Jake his fear was mighty strong

    If Forty Rod too much he sipped,
    Old Santys sleigh might just get flipped!
    And that would prove an awful thing
    On Christmas Eve with gifts to bring.

    At last—no more—his job was done.
    Jake finished off his Christmas run
    By touching down old Santy’s sleigh.
    Of course, he put his mules away.

    Back to his cabin Jakey crept
    Where by the fire old Santy slept.
    So off to bed went skinner Jake
    ‘Til Christmas morn he came awake.

    But Nick was gone, his reindeer too!
    So Jake got feelin’ mighty blue.
    Yet, on his wall he found a note,
    And if I may, I’ll share a quote:

    “To skinner Jake, my truest friend,
    Old Santy Claus some help will lend.
    When Winter snows melt fast away
    Head out to Alder Gulch to play.

    The rush won’t start ‘till ‘63
    The first to stake you’ll surely be.
    The map I’ve drawn will get you there.
    I figure that should make us square.”

    Jake found the spot without a hitch.
    The strike he made was filthy rich,
    And his good fortune was because
    He’d helped out dear old Santy Claus.

    All the best of the season to everyone,

    Lanny
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    Mrs. Sassy Claus Went Out To Play


    At Christmas time, some tales are told
    About the folks who chase the gold.
    But stranger yet are tales about
    The folks who’ve felt they’d been left out.

    Now in this case, I’m speakin’ ‘cause
    My tale’s ‘bout Mrs. Santy Claus.
    You see up north, it’s always cold
    Which interferes with chasin’ gold.

    And Mrs. Claus, a jolly sort
    Felt northern weather sold her short.
    “Now, Santy dear”, she said one day,
    “I’d love to chase the gold and play

    In warmer climes than here’s about.
    In fact, I need to just get out!”
    Well Santy Claus was plumb took back
    By Sassy Claus’s word attack.

    He’d always thought she’d loved it there
    With reindeer-sleigh and polar bear.
    But then his brain began to work!
    He realized he’d been a jerk.

    Why keepin’ her trapped in the cold
    Had kept her from her quest for gold.
    Now Santy knew a thing or two
    Of chasin’ gold, let me tell you.

    (He’d helped out miners in the past
    Who’d lost their hopes a-mighty fast
    When ore’d played out, or placer’d quit
    Well, Santy Claus knew all of it.)

    As comprehension filled his brain
    That he himself had caused her pain,
    He reckoned that he’d trapped her there
    In frigid, frozen polar air.

    A plan he hatched, a field trip!
    His brain rushed on, “We’ll let ‘er rip!
    We’ll take a break for just one day
    Way south in Cal-ee-for-neye-ay.”

    (Now makin’ toys is constant work,
    So Santy couldn’t be a jerk
    By wastin’ time on holidays,
    A happy missus? That streak pays!!)

    A master plan, a genius stroke
    Of figurin’ in him awoke.
    He’d have the elves pack up some stuff
    ‘Cause trips down south could be quite rough.

    Those ‘49’ers workin’ there
    Were ranker than a grizzly bear.
    Plus nasty things did robbers do,
    Plus gamblin’ cheats, plus soiled doves too.

    The atmosphere of minin’ camps
    Gave Santy Claus a case of cramps.
    But with some helpful Red-Eye brew
    It killed those cramps and all pain too!

    Now packed and ready, doubts aside,
    Old Santy whistled up his ride.
    His reindeer team was itchin’ bad
    To travel south where fun was had.

    A twinklin’ eye, a quick nod too,
    That sleigh took off its job to do.
    The trip was quick, that ride was fast,
    Full-powered by a magic blast.

    The rig touched down in old-growth pine
    And things were lookin’ mighty fine.
    A stream was near, a likely place.
    No 49’ers fouled that space.

    Down to the stream, not very far
    An inside bend, a gravel bar!
    Well Santy soon had stripped that spot.
    The pans came out; that bar looked hot!

    A little pannin’ proved right quick
    That Santy Claus was pretty slick.
    He’d put his bride into the pay.
    So Sassy Claus, she panned all day . . .

    With darkness comin’, Nick took care
    To keep a watch for man or bear.
    His little darlin’ just kept on
    A diggin’ ‘till the dirt was gone.

    A clunk, a clank, not very far . . .
    The bedrock gave a sudden jar.
    “Just wait a bit my darlin’ elf
    I’d like to check this out myself.”

    So Santy Claus went off to get
    His reindeer team and flyin’ kit.
    He wasn’t gone too powr’ful long.
    When he came back, he heard a song . . .

    A comin’ from that gravel bar,
    Now lit by power of evenin’ star,
    Came sweetest singin’ on that night
    From Sassy Claus, her eyes all bright:

    ***********************
    “Oh my Santy, oh my Santy,
    Oh my Santy you are mine.
    I was cold up there forever,
    Now I’m warm and things are fine.

    This here bedrock’s loaded up with
    Lots of sassy gold just fine.
    I was cold up there forever,
    Now I’m warm and things are fine.

    In this pan there is a massive
    Golden nugget that is mine.
    I was cold up there forever,
    Now I’m warm and things are fine.

    This here nugget’s mighty purdy
    It’s no three, it’s sure a nine!
    I was cold up there forever,
    Now I’m warm and things are fine.

    Oh my Santy, you’re my darlin’
    And forever you are mine.
    I will love this trip forever,
    Ever grateful, I’ll be fine.”

    ***********************

    So Santy quickly called her to
    His reindeer sleigh just built for two.
    And back they went to build the toys
    For all the little girls and boys.

    But if you visit on a night,
    A-way up north when things are right,
    You just might hear, while you take pause,
    A sweetly singin’ Sassy Claus.

    All the best to all of you this holiday season,

    Lanny
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    Thank You Lanny for this 2018 winters best poetry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadapple View Post
    YO Buddy !!!! HO HO Ho !
    Right back at ya!

    All the best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63bkpkr View Post
    Thank You Lanny for this 2018 winters best poetry!
    You are most welcome Herb, and as always, thanks for dropping in, and thanks for being such a great guy!

    All the best,

    Lanny
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