Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Hey Lanny, I thought I would drop you a line and say thank you for all your amazing stories. You truly are very talented. This is my first year prospecting and I'm trying to absorb as much information as I can. It took me almost a week to read through your thread, but with all the knowledge that you and so many others that have posted here have provided, it was well worth it. I have over 2 pages of little bits of information that I have jotted down as I read through. If one of your goals was to help Cheechackos like me you have succeeded. Best of luck out there and may the gold be with you!

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Thanks for the link to a outstanding thread. Outstanding gold, beautiful country, and it would seem that your government values it's mining heritage and is affording its citizens to enjoy it. Very refreshing.....:occasion14:
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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I'm back for a few days--thanks to all who have dropped in for a visit. I'll try to update things when I get a chance. We got some more sassy gold--detecting, sniping, and running dirt, and I took some more pictures of the incredible country we prospect in.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Looking forward to seeing the pics of the country and the gold Lanny.
Will be checking back often for sure. Gold Nuggets :hello:
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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I checked them out Eagle--nice gold. Some day I'll have to get to California to detect some of that great looking gold.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Herb--great to hear from you while I was away. We had a great summer and got some nice, sassy gold. We chased the gold with the detectors (Falcon and the Minelab 5000) and found gold with both of them, and we ran some dirt through a washplant (Hydromatic Jig) and got some great color. There were all kinds of interesting critters around, all the way from tree toads to cougars. Some of the pictures of gold are ours and some are shots of other gold hunters we visited. I'm trying to post new pictures but my hosting site is down for maintenance and I haven't been able to update with any new photos. I do have some nice pictures of shots taken while detecting, gold recovered while detecting, mountain scenery, and interesting miscellaneous mountain marvels.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Gold Nuggets,

Thanks so much for dropping in. The pictures are ready to go to get everything updated, and I hope it doesn't take much longer for my hosting site to finish maintenance so that I can post them (I've been trying for the last two days).

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Oakview,

Thanks for your kind words and for taking the time to view and contribute.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Canuck,

As a Cheechacko--you're always welcome! And, thanks for your generous compliments.

All the best, and go find some great gold and come back and tell us about it.

Lanny
 

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JW--it's been at least forever since I heard from you. How are things? Still getting the gold? If you get a chance, drop back with an update and a few of those gorgeous photos of yours.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Terry,

I'm honored to have you drop in any time!

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Thank you Lanny those are awesome photographs! Looking at the side on view of the fractured shale I can see many possible places where gold could be found. Your first group of pictures showed more difficult bedrock to work, hammer and chisel work type of bedrock. Where any of the nuggets displayed on the piece of paper located in the fractured rock? Where you able to find any of those 'sassy nuggets' with your main detector or with the Falcon? Is the 4 legged animal an elk? The two legged animal with the ATV looks like he's been enjoying himself. The large boulder with the hat by it, do you feel it was rounded by natural sluffing off of the outer surface or was it water washed? The second photo shows a bonded layer of rock with dirt underneath it, I've come across a layer like that in CA but did not find anything in it, sure looks intriguing though! Was you luck any better? Nice boulder prop to the left, being safe is always wise! Lovely looking heavy bottomed old glass bottle, the white staining is that on the inside the outside or both? Looks like it was dug up as it has not turned purple from being exposed to sunlight for a 100 years or so. Nice looking track you have there at least as far as the eye can see. And finally, what is the total weight in grams of the gold the blue stained finger is pointing to on the paper?

Thank you for sharing as the pictures help to keep my blood pumping........Herb

That fractured shale does hold the gold Herb--nice observation. Those nuggets came from a large boulder field where there was a blow-out of a glacial dam I believe. Many of the nuggets are hammered flat as a result. They came from a friend's claim--he graciously let me snap a picture of his gold. That is indeed an elk, and the large boulder was definitely water washed. And, yes we do find nuggets and flake gold in that conglomerate--it's rough, character gold and very beautiful--totally suited to detector work. I won't go under that layer of cap rock--it's dangerous, and those that propped those rocks are playing a dangerous game as the weight up top will crush those little rocks when it lets go. The bottle is hand-blown glass--very old and most-likely an opium bottle. I found it in a throw-out pile where someone was screening loose dirt for panning. The dirt was muddy, and they missed it because they were classifying everything, which makes me wonder why they were classifying muddy dirt in the first place?! The weight of the gold on the paper was written on another piece of paper that I had, but sadly didn't keep--his granddaughter had the painted nails--not me. We have many, many miles of logging roads to explore on Herb, and many, many miles of trails as well.


All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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All of those questions from 63bkpkr only leaves me with a couple to ask. (lol)

The slide fence you're leaning against appears to protect from a mine decomposing. Those blues and greens appear to be
some pretty decent copper out-crops. Or am I reading it wrong?

And, is there really so many blue rocks in Canada, or does your camera just translate them that way?

Loved the pictures. Like 63bkpkr said; "keeps my blood pumping".

Eagle

Eagle--you're reading it right--it is a copper out-crop. There are a lot of bluish, gray, and black colored rocks--sometimes the camera does enhance the blue. There are also nice green rocks as well.

Thanks for visiting Eagle--you're always welcome,

Lanny
 

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I never go prospecting without my MD-20.

The more I use that handy little thing--the more I like it! I also learn more uses for it each time I'm out. For instance, we were running dirt, and when I cleaned up, there was a heavy in the top of the pan that looked like pyrite (stained red as well), but did not act like pyrite at all. The Falcon sure ID'd it! It's nice and clean now, and it's easy to see that it's gold.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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This was the first of the sassy little beauties--then came numbers two and three. Lots of fun--I broke out of my slump in this area big time.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Sassy nuggets to be sure!

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Night-time critter--tree toad--about two-thirds the size of my foot.

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Forest fungus with some attitude.

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What once was.

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A place to sit--a place of solitude for reflection and quiet thinking. . . .

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All the best,

Lanny
 

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