Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Lanny in AB

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All the best,

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And the squirrels can get the pine nuts out of their pine cones in peace and solitude. :laughing7:

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Lanny in AB

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All the best,

Lanny
 

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EagleDown

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It doesn't cost much to call Heaven from there because it's a local call.

Thanks for the pictures of one of the most beautiful countries in the world! (The gold is pretty nice too). (lol)

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the little canyon grotto is gorgeous - what, there's no black sand where you dig, or are you just a perfectionist on clean-ups? You sure you're not Greg Norman(pro golfer)? spittin image
as they say.
 

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I love coming back to this thread, always so many nice pics and stories to look at and read. :D
 

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Thanks for sharing the pictures of the nice gold
and the beautiful country Lanny. Very nice!
Gold Nuggets :hello:
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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It doesn't cost much to call Heaven from there because it's a local call.

Thanks for the pictures of one of the most beautiful countrys in the world! (The gold is pretty nice too). (lol)

Eagle

Eagle,

The Great State of California is mighty beautiful as I recall--world-class in fact. I hope you're still getting out every once in a while to chase some of that fine 49'er gold.

All the best, and thanks for your nice compliments,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Lanny in AB

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the little canyon grotto is gorgeous - what, there's no black sand where you dig, or are you just a perfectionist on clean-ups? You sure you're not Greg Norman(pro golfer)? spittin image
as they say.

It is a very gorgeous canyon--if it was in a National Park pictures of it would make it around the world. Yes, there's black sand (magnetite) and red sand (pyrite), but as you noticed, that's cleaned gold in the pan. It was running with pyrite sand which made the cleanup much easier to facilitate a quick shot of some flake gold.

I've golfed before, but I'm no golfer. And, Greg Norman I am not, but it would be nice to have his money.

Nevada (where you're from) has a fantastic and ongoing history of gold--I hope you're out there chasing some of it. I've dirt-biked out in the desert and seen many, many abandoned hard-rock mines--beautiful country to visit.


All the best,

Lanny
 

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I love coming back to this thread, always so many nice pics and stories to look at and read. :D

You are always most welcome to visit. The stories, as you've found out, are included in earlier posts, and thanks for commenting on them as story writing is a serous investment of time and energy, so it's nice to know that they're appreciated.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Thanks for sharing the pictures of the nice gold
and the beautiful country Lanny. Very nice!
Gold Nuggets :hello:

You're very welcome, and thanks for taking the time to express your appreciation.

All the best,

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Lanny in AB

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All the best to all you gold seekers out there,

Lanny
 

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EagleDown

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Eagle,

The Great State of California is mighty beautiful as I recall--world-class in fact. I hope you're still getting out every once in a while to chase some of that fine 49'er gold.

All the best, and thanks for your nice compliments,

Lanny

As I stated, your country is truly beautiful! California is (in some parts) truly beautiful also, but politics are quickly
changing that. The river that I've dredged and prospected on for over 50 years has been classified as "Wild and
Scenic", which means; no claims with-in a quarter mile of the river. Hey, guess where the most gold is.

All the best to you too my friend,

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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As I stated, your country is truly beautiful! California is (in some parts) truly beautiful also, but politics are quickly
changing that. The river that I've dredged and prospected on for over 50 years has been classified as "Wild and
Scenic", which means; no claims with-in a quarter mile of the river. Hey, guess where the most gold is.

All the best to you too my friend,

Eagle

Now that is a tragedy Eagle. That must be very difficult for you to lose such a productive stretch of river, and misguided politics are always a truly lamentable thing.

I see that on your thread people have been reaping the rewards of following your golden advice--it's fun to see them succeed.

All the best to my friend, the golden story teller of California,

Lanny

P.S. Here's another photo for you.

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Lanny,
I'm a newbie not only to MD but also to this forum. Took me a couple days to go through this thread... awesome info and reading! I took advantage of every opportunity to come back and read a bit more. I'm sure I will be rereading it to try and gain more knowledge from you and the other posters.

I don't have a MD and I have been looking at the Xterra 705 gold pack. Have you been able to try out your 705? What do you think, should I save up my change and go for a PI? I know everyone has their own opinions and I do plan on going to a local place and window shop. :laughing7:

Thanks for your time! Can't wait to get out there... I think my temp is steadily rising from all your pics.
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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Lanny,
I'm a newbie not only to MD but also to this forum. Took me a couple days to go through this thread... awesome info and reading! I took advantage of every opportunity to come back and read a bit more. I'm sure I will be rereading it to try and gain more knowledge from you and the other posters.

I don't have a MD and I have been looking at the Xterra 705 gold pack. Have you been able to try out your 705? What do you think, should I save up my change and go for a PI? I know everyone has their own opinions and I do plan on going to a local place and window shop. :laughing7:

Thanks for your time! Can't wait to get out there... I think my temp is steadily rising from all your pics.

Hi there and welcome! I have used my 705, but my big focus with it so far has been for coins--it's a great coin machine. However, it is also suited to hunt gold with the DD in gold mode. I don't know how big your gold is that you're hunting, but in a lot of places, it seems you'll need something very sensitive to find small gold in areas that have been heavily worked. The 705 comes with coils in different KHZ for different sized targets/different hunting conditions. So, for smaller gold, you'd probably want to try the 6 inch DD, 18.75 KHZ for maximum sensitivity--that's the next coil I'll be trying out on it when I take it back to the gold fields. Last trip to the gold fields with it, I only had the elliptical DD and the area had been hunted heavily and only tiny gold was left--I didn't get any hits with the bigger coil, but with the smaller sniper coil it will probably up the sensitivity to small gold. That's the one down-side to the 705--you have to buy different coils for different applications for different KHZ operational capability. I don't know why Minelab did that on the 705 when they very obviously have the tech to put it all in one package.

For starting out, you may want to buy a Gold Bug II, or a Tesoro Lobo ST, or a GMT. If you're going to be hunting in extreme ground, you may want to buy a used Minelab PI, like a 21/2200, 3500 or up. It depends on your disposable income for detector purchasing. Many, many people swear by the Bug II and the Lobo ST, and they're not price prohibitive.

All the best, and welcome to the fever--thanks for your kind words as well,

Lanny

P.S. Here's a couple of more pictures for you.

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