Bedrock and Gold: The mysteries . . .

Lanny in AB

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Do you love to chase the gold? Please join me--lots of gold hunting tips, stories of finds (successful and not), and prospecting poetry.

Nugget in the bedrock tip:

I had a visit with a mining buddy this past weekend, and he told me of an epic battle to get a nugget out of the bedrock, and of what he learned from the experience. I thought some of you might like to learn from his mistake.

While out detecting one day, he came across a large sheet of bare bedrock. The bedrock was exposed because the area had been blasted off with a water cannon (a monitor), by the old-timers! It was not fractured bedrock, in fact it was totally smooth.

He was not optimistic at all of the prospects of a nugget. But, for some reason (we've all been there) he decided to swing his detector over that bedrock. After a long time, just as he was about to give up on his crazy hunch, he got a signal, right out of that smooth bedrock.

There was no crevice, no sign of a crevice, nada! So, he had to go all the way back to camp to get a small sledge and a chisel. The signal in the rock intrigued him, but he still wasn't overly optimistic. For those of you that have chased signals in a similar situation, sometimes there's a patch of hot mineralization in the bedrock that sounds off, but this spot, according to him, was sharp and clear right in the middle of the signal, not just a general increase of the threshold like you get when you pass over a hot spot in the bedrock.

Anyway, he made it back to the spot and started to chisel his way into the bedrock. If any of you have tried this, it's an awful job, and you usually wind up with cut knuckles--at the least! Regardless, he kept fighting his way down, busting out chunks of bedrock. He kept checking the hole, and the signal remained very strong.

This only puzzled him all the more as he could clearly see that it was solid bedrock with no sign of any crevice. He finally quit at the end of the day, at a depth of about a foot, but still, nothing in the hole.

An experienced nugget shooting friend dropped by the next morning to see him, and asked him how the hunt was going. My buddy related his tale of the mysterious hole in the bedrock, and told the friend to go over and check it out, and see if he could solve the riddle.

Later in the day, the other nugget hunter returned. In his hand was a fine, fat, sassy nugget. It weighed in at about an ounce and a quarter! After my friend returned his eyeballs to their sockets and zapped his heart to start it again, he asked where the nugget had come from.

Imagine his surprise when he heard it came from the mystery hole!! He asked how deep the other guy had gone into the bedrock to get it. "Well, no deeper" was his reply.

So, here's the rest of the story as to what happened. When the successful nugget hunter got to the bedrock, he scanned the surface got the same strong signal as my buddy. He widened out the hole and scanned again. Still a solid tone. He widened the hole some more so he could get his coil in, and here's the key and the lesson in this story, he got a strong signal off the side of the hole, about six inches down, but set back another inch into the side of the bedrock!!

My unlucky friend, the true discoverer of the gorgeous nugget's resting place had gone deep past the signal while digging his hole!!

Now, of course, a good pinpointer would easily solve this problem. The problem was, my buddy didn't have one, so why would he widen the hole, right? Well, the other guy was the one with more experience, and that's why he did. It was a lot more work, but what a payoff!

So, my buddy's butt is still black and blue from where he kicked himself for the next week or so for having lost such an incredible prize.

Some nugget hunting lessons are harder than others to learn. . . .

All the best,

Lanny


P.S. When in gold country--check the bedrock, regardless of whether it looks likely or not! Mother Nature likes to play games sometimes.

 

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Wow! I've been reading this thread for the past 2 hours and have only scraped the surface of the "Legend" that is "Lanny!" absolutely Brilliant! you should write a book Lanny with all of this information in it, your Winter photos look like they could have been taken here (Bosnia) during Winter, very similar looking Country, and Weather!

Nice One! you have me hooked ;)
 

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Hey Lanny been a bit since I've checked in. How's the hunt going. I haven't had a chance to get back out yet. The heat plus my physical ability hasn't been good enough. So trying to get enough energy stored up to get out. Lol.
Actually I'm up north now and thinking about four wheeling out to some abandoned mine sites. Just hoping the area is as promising as it seemed on google earth. Lol.
Didn't bring my metal detector this trip, but got the backpack and tools. So maybe I just might be able to bring out some decent dirt to run through the sluice back at home. Lol. Wife sure hates it when I go out with no dirt. Then come home with more dirt when I'm still sitting on some from different areas. Lol
Keep healthy and find that 300 lb nugget/boulder.
 

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Halito Lanny.

If you have Google Earth, when you have the time, check this out. It's the quartz vein that can be traced for well over 50 miles. It's also the one that the "Mountain King" mine was on. You can see some of their workings just to the WSW of the map pin.

37°37'37.97"N 120° 2'28.20"W

Come on home Brother, we all miss you!!
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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An installment from Lanny is like being addicted to drugs, I just have to read it!

My Lanny I sure hope that just out of the prospecting pictures there was a nice warm inviting fire going, makes me shiver
just to think about not being warm.

Very pretty country/pictures, reminds of a few winter trips I've taken on cross country skis with full packs.

Thank you for the update...........................63bkpkr

Yes, we had a nice warm place to go to. We even found some nice gold.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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Halito My Brother,

I can't show you many old cabins, but I can show you where a lot of them "use to be". Unfortunately, WE have the BLM that seems to
believe that if they don't burn down all of the old cabins, someone might be able to get in out of the weather. (lol)

Beautiful pictures/country!! (Except for the cold). (lol) It seems that the older I get, the less I like the cold.

Glad you're able to get out into the "wild". Can't wait to see some of your sassy gold finds.

All the best,

Eagle

So great to hear from you again. It's a shame that they're destroying all of those old historical cabins--that's a cryin' shame. We got a few nuggets and a little flake gold this summer. I'll post some pictures as I get the chance--off again for a bit to get some more gold.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Dang Lanny you are a hearty breed of propsector up in the northern territory. Good health and good hunting.

Thanks--it is a great big country, with lots of places to look yet. As they say in the Mother Lode, "There's always one place you haven't looked." or something close to that. . . .

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Hey Lanny been a bit since I've checked in. How's the hunt going. I haven't had a chance to get back out yet. The heat plus my physical ability hasn't been good enough. So trying to get enough energy stored up to get out. Lol.
Actually I'm up north now and thinking about four wheeling out to some abandoned mine sites. Just hoping the area is as promising as it seemed on google earth. Lol.
Didn't bring my metal detector this trip, but got the backpack and tools. So maybe I just might be able to bring out some decent dirt to run through the sluice back at home. Lol. Wife sure hates it when I go out with no dirt. Then come home with more dirt when I'm still sitting on some from different areas. Lol
Keep healthy and find that 300 lb nugget/boulder.

Did you find anything?

I actually got a nugget with the detector in an area that was totally "hunted out". That was kind of fun, but there's a story there, and who knows--I may break down and write it up--we'll see.

I even poked around a bit where an old west Red Light district was and found a few cool finds, but that was with the little X-Terra 705, and that was also in an area that's been hammered by other detectorists, but there's still a bunch of targets left to dig there as well.

Nice to hear from you, and all the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny in AB

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Halito Lanny.

If you have Google Earth, when you have the time, check this out. It's the quartz vein that can be traced for well over 50 miles. It's also the one that the "Mountain King" mine was on. You can see some of their workings just to the WSW of the map pin.

37°37'37.97"N 120° 2'28.20"W

Come on home Brother, we all miss you!!

Thanks for the coordinates Eagle--I'll see if I can check it out.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Greetings Lanny,
Good to see you back around a computer again and I hope the time you spent away has solved what was needed, been profitable or whatever the reason was it has come to a positive conclusion.

I am still bothered by this shoulder but I am alive and walking around, town that is. All my best to you and yours.........................63bkpkr
 

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Halito Lanny!! Great to have you back. I posted the following in my thread, but since CA dredgers and our lawyers need all the help (financial) we can get, I sincerely hope that you don't mind if I duplicate it here. I know that in our present economy, it's difficult to donate to ANY worthy cause, but if just 25% of yours and my readers sent them $20 (as I did), they would have a sizable sum to get the paperwork necessary to put up a good defense in court.

The headline on this ICMJ artical sounds like it would be hopeless to hope for an end to the moratorium on dredging in CA.
BUT, if you read the whole artical, there's still hope for us. They need financial help to get this done!!
I've done enough complaining about my small income that you all know that I have to watch my expenditures carefully, but I'm going to send them as much as I can and I hope that some of you care enough to help also. Make sure you mark
May, 2014 in your calender and help them get the necessary paperwork early enough to be able to fight for our rights.

A note to dredgers/miners; If asked about your dredging activities, DO NOT REPLY that you are a recreational dredger,
rather, say that you depended on gold dredging for a significant part of your income.

Please take the time to read this whole artical:
Judge refuses to grant preliminary injunction to end suction gold dredging moratorium in California - Miner's News - ICMJ's Prospecting and Mining Journal
 

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Oregon has changed the wording on their new mining permits and proposed mining laws from "recreational mining" to just "mining" to avoid any legal challenges. This was learned from the problems that surfaced in California in regards to the use of the phrase "recreational mining" to describe mining. Do not doubt for a minute that the anti-mining concerns are watching and reading everything we write on these forums and will change anything that they consider to be a challenge to their way of thinking to get mining stopped. So donate everything you can afford to help all miners stop the anti-miners and enviro groups from destroying yet another industry. :hello:
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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Here's some pictures of some gorgeous country, and some gorgeous gold--the gold I snapped pictures of when we were in a new area testing. This sassy gold came from a placer operation two claims down from where we were working: there's many, many ounces of gold in these pictures. The large nuggets in the pan are mighty big pieces.

The chunky one in the palm of one of the miners is a 21 gram beauty (much smaller than the beefy ones in the pan). The smaller one is 6 grams.

The ones in the plastic container were a different batch--I have some of those--I couldn't resist buying a few since I was there.




This picture is a great example of a "bedrock" stream channel. Look at the drops/steps in the stream bed. Moreover, there is very little overburden in this stream, but where there is, that's a great place to snipe. Stay away from the smooth bedrock--find places where there's fractures that can trap the gold and then clean them out. On a parallel thought, when you're prospecting a stream, and you see a series of connected drops--you know it's not that far to bedrock (usually several feet of overburden or a little more). So, don't give up if you dig down a bit and don't hit the bedrock. As well, look across the stream, up the stream, behind you, etc. and if you see a shoulder of bedrock protruding from the mountain that then dives down into the stream, that's another good indicator as long as that "step" pattern continues.



Cheechako or Sourdough? Many days I exhibit the qualities of both, but often I run across a new situation, and I'm 100% Cheechako again. Some of the ground in this area had areas of very sticky blue clay, other spots were almost entirely decomposing quartz. In fact, one of the creeks was called, of course, Quartz Creek. I even had a fellow prospector show me some spectacular quartz specimen gold, and I've seen a lot of specimen gold, but this was truly spectacular. He's still trying to find the source of it.


The glaciers had a lot of fun carving out this area.


The glacier is gone, but the unmistakeable fingerprint remains. Could this be the source?



If you look at where the water hits the lip of the jig drop (the black strip that runs across the top part of the header), you'll see some chunky gold. However, what came out of all of the steel shot (steel balls) was freakin' incredible!Way more stuff than made it in to the picture of the pans.

Sweet mamma!!!


This is the kind of pan that will stop your freakin' heart--more than once!!



Some fines--not nearly as much fun as the coarse stuff--you get spoiled by the big stuff.


Booyah!


I just had to adopt some of these northern beauties. I'll be sure they come to no harm, and I'm so glad to have them.
 

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Great pics there Lanny! The palm of that hand looks like it has alot of stories to it.
:hello:
 

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No problem whatsoever!

All the best, and thanks Eagle--a little eye-candy for you in my updated post,

Lanny

Halito Lanny!! Great to have you back. I posted the following in my thread, but since CA dredgers and our lawyers need all the help (financial) we can get, I sincerely hope that you don't mind if I duplicate it here. I know that in our present economy, it's difficult to donate to ANY worthy cause, but if just 25% of yours and my readers sent them $20 (as I did), they would have a sizable sum to get the paperwork necessary to put up a good defense in court.
The headline on this ICMJ artical sounds like it would be hopeless to hope for an end to the moratorium on dredging in CA.
BUT, if you read the whole artical, there's still hope for us. They need financial help to get this done!!
I've done enough complaining about my small income that you all know that I have to watch my expenditures carefully, but I'm going to send them as much as I can and I hope that some of you care enough to help also. Make sure you mark
May, 2014 in your calender and help them get the necessary paperwork early enough to be able to fight for our rights.

A note to dredgers/miners; If asked about your dredging activities, DO NOT REPLY that you are a recreational dredger,
rather, say that you depended on gold dredging for a significant part of your income.

Please take the time to read this whole artical:
Judge refuses to grant preliminary injunction to end suction gold dredging moratorium in California - Miner's News - ICMJ's Prospecting and Mining Journal
 

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Lanny in AB

Lanny in AB

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Great pics there Lanny! The palm of that hand looks like it has alot of stories to it.
:hello:

You bet it does--that hombre has chased the gold all over the world.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Greetings Lanny,
Good to see you back around a computer again and I hope the time you spent away has solved what was needed, been profitable or whatever the reason was it has come to a positive conclusion.

I am still bothered by this shoulder but I am alive and walking around, town that is. All my best to you and yours.........................63bkpkr

Always fantastic to hear from you Herb. I hope you'll recover fully soon. There is hope. . . .

The time I spent away, as you can tell from the pictures in my updated post, was well, well worth it. Nothing heals like many, many weeks of sunshine, fresh air, incredible scenery, and beautiful sassy gold!

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Lanny, Good to hear you managed some gold nuggets, cant wait for the story and pics. Hope you get some more while the weather holds.

Great to hear from you--the stories will be a bit later, if and when I get the chance. For now, the pictures might hold you for a while.

All the best,

Lanny
 

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Oregon has changed the wording on their new mining permits and proposed mining laws from "recreational mining" to just "mining" to avoid any legal challenges. This was learned from the problems that surfaced in California in regards to the use of the phrase "recreational mining" to describe mining. Do not doubt for a minute that the anti-mining concerns are watching and reading everything we write on these forums and will change anything that they consider to be a challenge to their way of thinking to get mining stopped. So donate everything you can afford to help all miners stop the anti-miners and enviro groups from destroying yet another industry. :hello:

Thanks for the update goldnuggets!

All the best,

Lanny
 

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