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  1. #16
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    Re: code of ethics

    Here's my twin Lincolns. To each his own and do what ever floats your boat. This thread is turning into a flamewar as i assume northoceanbeach wanted in the first place.

  2. #17
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    Re: code of ethics

    Yes, but it has it's good point too. Northoceanbeach is right on one point which he is making in a round about way. He's riling up a bunch of old farts that have gotten too set in their ways. I'd venture to guess this person is about 20 years old. If you "dissent" fron the general consensus on here you are lambasted, called a loser, called a theif, or are just generally thrashed by the other viewers for giving an honest opinion. I certainly have created my share of this on this forum by expressing my opinions, LOL. In the end it all comes down to what you can live with.. 8)

  3. #18
    Charles,Oak Island

    Re: code of ethics

    huummmmmmm whats that about the heat in the kitchen.............

  4. #19
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    Re: code of ethics

    Hey Coinshooter, I'd be happy to swing a coil with you anytime. But "extreme right winger"? C'mon now. You take the time to articulate your position and state you consider all options. The original post here, even if as others state was just a flame igniter then even more the so demonstrates a lack of respect for others. It is juvenile in it's manner and style. Old farts? Who keeps 'em around long enough to let 'em get old?!?

  5. #20
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    Re: code of ethics

    Yep, Coin Shooter i agree with ya. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, be it good or bad. He knew a post like that would really stir up some sh*t.

  6. #21
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    Re: code of ethics

    Yeah, it can really get the blood flowing on this forum

  7. #22

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    Re: code of ethics

    Sorry I haven't gotten back to this one in a few days-- Wow! What a live wire!

    Wait a minute-- I never called anyone a 'thief'. If you re-read my post, you'll see that I merely compared someone's level of ethics with those of a thief. Different enough, for those who are perceptive and don't over-simplify. As I see it, someone who would sit on a returnable item might easily become a thief, and the line gets a little hazy from my perspective.

    Coinshooter, if you think it's so easy to return something without a name engraved, why don't you try it? Because you are afraid of losing your precious find that you 'value' so much? I have tried it, unsuccessfully, many times. Maybe you think I should hire a private investigator at $500 a day to locate the owner of something I found. As with all things physical, natural, and scientifically pursued there is a point of diminishing returns.

    I agree that a 'reasonable effort' no doubt will be different from individual to individual, and each person needs to draw the line where he/she sees fit. I simply don't agree that where lots of unique information is available on a particular find that someone who can easily find the owner should do nothing. It is as unreasonable to sit on a find with lots of information (ie a class ring with name, school, year, etc.) that can be returned and claim it as your own as it is to interview everyone on the planet to return a single unmarked item.

    There has to be a balance somewhere. If you've got balance, there's no need to struggle over it.

    "...and then I will finally be able to take over the world!"
    - Brain, in 'Pinky and the Brain'

    -- Rattus Labyrinthicus

  8. #23
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    Re: code of ethics

    Labrat, I wasn't specifically harping on you, just the general idea that people on here preach about being so honest, yet when someone brings up a rhetorical question about a large sum of bullion, the stakes are greater and they all lean towards the dishonest side of things (except you of course - your mom brought you up well , with ethics),
    (LR from post about bullion)- "I really think it is a better way to treat it as winning the lottery-- do your legal homework, pay your taxes, and invest the remainder." -

    What a good boy you are! Your mom and dad must be proud!!

    You and I differ greatly on the "thief" aspect. You consider it "thief-like", I consider it as "finders keepers". If it's thief-like, then how can you justify any of the other "owned" items that you have in your possesion. Just because you can or cannot I.D. them does not mean that someone doesn't own every piece you have. What makes these ones different? Because they have a name, obviously. But this is where our opinions differ on value!

    But as far as the others, I have no sympathy for them. What a bunch of hypocrates!!



  9. #24

    Mar 2003
    augusta, ga
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    Re: code of ethics

    Quote Originally Posted by northoceanbeach
    alright, i have read too many posts from people returning rings and such.? and some even go to great lengths to try to find the owner, even after many. many years.? OK, look.? we are treasure hunters, this is a treasure hunter forum.? not a charity forum.? what are you using your metal detector for?? i mean what's the point if once you find anything that has any value you just return it.? or turn it over to the police!? if i found someone's wedding rind i would be selling that mofo.? finders keepers brotha. and if your lost property means so much to you; you shouldn't be trying to impress people by wearing it at the beach or whatever.? and besides, it is just stuff, you've really got bigger problems than losing your class ring, if after 20 years you are still fretting about it.? pretty soon you will be tracking down king soloman's descendants to let them know you have found his lost treasure! :P
    i'm less concerned about what it is you're saying, we all have a right to keep things should we choose, but what is disconcerting is your desire to broadcast this in front of everyone and then rub it in everyone's face. We do this for different reasons, and to find something really valuable can make some people feel great, and returning it can make some people feel even better. Blasting others for what they do, especially if what they're doing is a good thing, is downright unkind. look inside yourself and ask why you made such a big deal about your feelings. maybe next time you find a high school ring you should give it back, because if you really felt so great about keeping it, you wouldn't have to tell everyone.

  10. #25

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    Re: code of ethics

    DUCK!!!! Someone just threw a chair. Missed me by that much. I just stepped into the room to find out if anyone knows if King Tut has any living relatives. There are a bunch of his possessions floating around in the museums. I think they should return them. Oh, and I think those archaeologists should stop robbing graves. Talk about ethics. Sheesh! Anyway what each person does with their finds is that persons business. Your conscience will guide you. I'm not mad at any of you (as long as you keep filling in your holes and at least throw away some of the trash you dig). Just keep in mind...we all come into this world with nothing and leave with just as much...enjoy it while you can. Now, commence to fightin". Just don't call me any names 'cause my feelins' are real tender. HH.
    It is better to try something and fail...Than to try nothing and succeed. Dr Robert Schuller
    You can wait for things to happen by chance...Or you can make things happen by choice. Said by me.
    Improvise, adapt and overcome. Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge

  11. #26

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    Re: code of ethics

    One more point (I just couldn't keep my big trap shut). All those old coins you have found and are now proudly sitting/displayed in your collection...they all have the owner's name stamped on them. Uncle Sam would be tickled pink if you returned them. The line starts here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>. I'm not taking sides just making a point ...where do you draw the line?
    It is better to try something and fail...Than to try nothing and succeed. Dr Robert Schuller
    You can wait for things to happen by chance...Or you can make things happen by choice. Said by me.
    Improvise, adapt and overcome. Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge

  12. #27
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    Re: code of ethics

    Like i said before. Whatever floats your boat. I dont give a sh*t what anyone does with their finds. They put the work into finding the stuff, so as i see it's theirs to do with as they please. Who am i to say different.

  13. #28

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    Re: code of ethics

    Well, let's see--

    If there are still any doubts, perhaps we should look in the original book of ethics. ?I find two interesting sentences that can be applied here:

    ..."Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's" ?-- Mark 12:17

    "The silver is mine, and the gold is mine," saith the Lord of Hosts. ?-- Haggai 2:8

    With this in mind, it is plain that all gold and/ or silver belongs to GOD, and so that's who I'll return it to. ?After all, who can argue with GOD ?So as soon as he comes over to collect, I'll have it ready. ?Or maybe he'll let me bring it with when I go to meet him! ?


    "...and then I will finally be able to take over the world!"
    - Brain, in 'Pinky and the Brain'

    -- Rattus Labyrinthicus

  14. #29
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    Please leave a ring after the beep!

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    Re: code of ethics

    Well said Diggin D! Sittin here scratchin my head...this is almost as good as a Springer episode! Trea-sure...Trea-sure...Trea-sure!

    I agree with the general opinions here. If your conscience tells you to make a resonable effort to contact the owner....then so be it. If not.....oh well! I strongly agree that EVERYTHING we find once belonged to someone else. I'm not knocking down any doors trying to return that silver dime I found last week!

    Play nice and Hunt hard!

    Moon
    Even the mightiest Oak in the forest is just a little nut that held it's ground!!

    Remember to take a walk in the shoes of a loser! Quote by Moonshadow 2/17

  15. #30
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    Re: code of ethics

    I know you are, but what am I?

    Sorry...couldn't resist ?

 

 
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