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May 05, 2012, 03:09 PM
#81
Reading the thoughtful responses in this thread makes me feel comfortable sharing my two cents worth.
I spent 25 years wearing a badge and carrying a gun. I am retired now, and still only rarely leave the house without a concealed weapon.
There are a couple of key points I want to share...
Know, very thoroughly, the laws in your state regarding both concealed carry and know the laws regarding the use of deadly force.
But what you really need to know is... yourself. Know, without fail, why you are packing the weapon and under what circumstances you would be willing to send that bullet downrange.
Because you cannot call it back.
Once you have all of that sorted out, if you choose to pack a weapon, please, please, get some serious training in it's use, maintenance, holstering techniques and retention skills...as in know how to keep some clown from taking your weapon away from you and using it on you.
And once you have the skills worked up, keep training because it is not like riding a bicycle, it is a persihable skill very much dependant on muscle memory and specific coordination that will go away if you don't stay on top of it.
I can lawfully carry in all of the contiguous 48 states. It took me a long time to earn that option. I take it very seriously. If you are gonna pack, you need to take it seriously, too.
Now, to the pepper spray deal.
The last thing I want to do is depend on a can of spray to keep a mad, hell-bent bear from taking a chunk out of me because I got to close to a cub I didn't see.
I would submit that the data on the attack "victory" ratio is skewed. People "winning" an encounter with a bear using spray are probably those who are spraying while retreating, or are not looking at a lfe/death encounter.
A seriously angry bear hell-bent on attack is not, I repeat not, going to turn and run 'cause it got some stuff in it's eyes and nose. I have sprayed humans with the stuff and there have been times when the spray did nothing....other than get to me. I sure as heck ain't gonna depend on spray to stop a bear unhappy with me and my presence in it's area of operation.
I live in mountain lion country. Mountain lions do not care about the spray. Rattlesnakes do not care about the spray.
Spray is a tool, but it has limitations and fooling yourself about the power of the pepper can be a mistake.
Like the metal detectors we use, a heck of a lot goes into the selection and learning that goes with the purchase if you expect to get the most out of it...and if you want it to perform when you need it.
The faster I go the behinder I get...
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May 05, 2012 03:09 PM
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May 08, 2012, 12:58 AM
#82
 Endeaver to perservere
Great post Sam.
People need to know what can happen after "Deadly Force" is used.
It will change your life forever.
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May 08, 2012, 08:13 PM
#83
like the cup of noodles terry lol
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May 08, 2012, 08:28 PM
#84
 IT COULD BE A VALUABLE PRIZE "YOU NEVER KNOW"
I have been around guns all my life.. Started to hunt when i was age 12... in Pa.. Now i am in my 70's and still drive semi truck part time..... So i am still a little spry..... I took the concealed carry course when Ohio made it legal to carry........... But i still never carry ... My thinking on that is if it is not on me i can not get into trouble......
"...Let no one know what,were or when..."
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May 08, 2012, 08:51 PM
#85
I've had a concealed handgun license for about 16 or 17 years roughly. I carry while detecting, however, I carry most all the time. "Need" is a very subjective thing. Most things like guns, fire extinguishers, flotation devices, etc are generally never "needed." However, when they are needed, they are needed very badly indeed. Like others have said, you need to know yourself, the law, and have competence in the use of your weapon. I've only drawn my pistol once in all the years that I've had a CHL. I was very glad to have it when I did. (A carjacker would have most likely taken my vehicle with my infant daughter in the back seat. He ran upon realizing he had just brought a knife to a gunfight.)
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May 09, 2012, 01:31 AM
#86
Faithful Saying: When SECONDS count, the police are only MINUTES away.
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May 13, 2012, 10:19 AM
#87
 Originally Posted by Hendrix
However, when they are needed, they are needed very badly indeed.
This bears repeating.
That's the part that's hard sorting out, and why Sam, a trained professional, says " ....and still only rarely leave the house without a concealed weapon." He knows that.
Of course, that varies with your local environment, but ........................
Last edited by Bum Luck; May 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." — Friedrich Nietzsche
"You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."
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May 13, 2012, 02:40 PM
#88
I always carry...then I have a ccw. If I am pounding someone's homestead or farm...I leave it in the truck. They have given you permission to be here. Bring a gun onto my property...i will own a new gun and you will never be back on any of my properties/contracts again. Just saying...now ifn I'm in the woods, beach or other public place pounding (or not) I'm packing at least one but usually two.
Last edited by High-Teck Redneck; May 13, 2012 at 02:43 PM.
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May 13, 2012, 05:28 PM
#89
I too carry concealed and rarely leave the house without it. Metal detecting is no different because I can't predict if and when a violent criminal will attack. I avoid high risk situations like any responsibly armed citizen would do. However, if I have to defend my life from a violent attacker while detecting, I'm trained, equipped and prepared to do so.
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May 14, 2012, 09:52 AM
#90
I don't carry, but there have been a few times hunting in the woods with headphones on that I've gotten spooked by the solitude and had the feeling that someone or something (think bear) was in the vicinity ..this is what happens when you are born and raised in NYC and then move to the boonies of Vermont..in any case, I usually hunt with my hubby who does carry. For when I'm all by my lonesome, I do keep a can of pepper spray in my waist pack.
I refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
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May 14, 2012, 10:07 AM
#91
Do I carry? Yes
When? When I am awake
Where? Every where except the bank and post office. ( I lock them in the truck)
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May 14, 2012, 10:46 AM
#92
In Florida its legal for licensed concealed carry holders to carry in banks - which I do.
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May 14, 2012, 01:21 PM
#93
This is an interesting topic. I think it would be more interesting to know who has ever been in a situation where they had to fend off a bear, mountain lion, etc.?
I prospect in the East Fork, San Gabriel mountains and I carry my pick, rock hammer and another sharp object, no gun though. I've been thinking about pepper spray though as a few weeks ago I was on a trail and ran across fresh bear droppings.
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May 14, 2012, 03:45 PM
#94
I grew up around E. St. Louis and I wouldn't go there without some HEAVY firepower.
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May 14, 2012, 05:42 PM
#95
 Originally Posted by MrLee
This is an interesting topic. I think it would be more interesting to know who has ever been in a situation where they had to fend off a bear, mountain lion, etc.?
I prospect in the East Fork, San Gabriel mountains and I carry my pick, rock hammer and another sharp object, no gun though. I've been thinking about pepper spray though as a few weeks ago I was on a trail and ran across fresh bear droppings.
I don't think pepper spray will help the bear droppings you ran into. Try stepping over them or wear rubber boots as it will wash off easier. Oh yah, pack a gun in case you run into the bear.
It's no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain
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May 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
#96
 USN Ret.
Always will carry one. You never know....
Due to the price increase of ammo, don't expect a warning shot!
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May 16, 2012, 08:42 PM
#97
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May 17, 2012, 05:09 PM
#98
 Originally Posted by laurieshub
Sure I do ! 
Cute.
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May 17, 2012, 06:34 PM
#99
I do carry on occasion.. usually when I'm alone and doing a remote cellar hole location... nobody is gonna make me "squeel like pig"... !
J. Servello
New York Antler Outdoors
www.nyantler-outdoors.com
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May 17, 2012, 06:43 PM
#100
 Originally Posted by laurieshub
Sure I do ! 
Open carry?
It's no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain
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