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    AFTERMATH?

    What would you do?
    Last edited by Ism; Aug 20, 2012 at 09:36 AM.
    When it comes to detecting, you will always find me "out standing in the field".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    What would you do?
    I'd head for the hills. You're just as guilty for possibly leaving bad plugs. After all, you did mention 5:20 in that you were also digging. I think I'd see plenty of finger pointing going on if someone approached you.
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    I saw that video and many more where the grass was so dry that no one should be digging, and in parks yet. In my opinon it was a bad time for the new minelab to come out, guys that got them wanted to use them dry or not with no concern on what it could do to the hobbie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    Here's a couple Youtube videos. The first is for entertainment but it sets the stage for the second one. You see, the first identifies a location in my neck of the woods.



    The second shows what isn't shown in the first video.



    This is the aftermath of a hunt at an old fairgrounds that is now a park. It has been too dry to dig plugs in the park but that didn't stop these noobs from potentially ruining metal detecting in Ann Arbor. They visited on Saturday Aug 11, 2012 and I made the video on Aug 15, 2012. The damage looks much worse in person.
    The reason I show the school after each plug is to prove that I am at the same location in their video.

    What would you do?
    Last edited by Treasure_Hunter; Aug 17, 2012 at 07:52 PM.

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    The grass is already dead, the ground is dry, no harm done. They filled in their holes as best as they could. They didn't kill the grass as it was already dead, so no harm, no foul. Just because you can tell someone was there doesn't make it wrong. No one is going to trip over or fall into one of the holes they made.

    Personally, I'd have dug a smaller hole, probably 3x3 or 4x4ish but still, they filled in the holes and looks like they stomped them down to pack them where they could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slag
    The grass is already dead, the ground is dry, no harm done. They filled in their holes as best as they could. They didn't kill the grass as it was already dead, so no harm, no foul. Just because you can tell someone was there doesn't make it wrong. No one is going to trip over or fall into one of the holes they made.

    Personally, I'd have dug a smaller hole, probably 3x3 or 4x4ish but still, they filled in the holes and looks like they stomped them down to pack them where they could.
    The thing to do is wait for rain. Grass goes dormant.

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    As I see it they were wrong in cutting a plug in dry grass. The roots were cut and no dirt was placed on a cloth or sheet of plastic for placing it all back in the hole. If they did this damage in my parks I'd see to it that they got a citation which carries fines for damages and reseeding the area. Think this is to harsh, do you want to lose the area to metal detecting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman
    As I see it they were wrong in cutting a plug in dry grass. The roots were cut and no dirt was placed on a cloth or sheet of plastic for placing it all back in the hole. If they did this damage in my parks I'd see to it that they got a citation which carries fines for damages and reseeding the area. Think this is to harsh, do you want to lose the area to metal detecting?

    Yep the sandman is correct again. Gotta use common sense.

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    Id be out MD right now if I wasn't away for work training

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartacus53 View Post
    I'd head for the hills. You're just as guilty for possibly leaving bad plugs. After all, you did mention 5:20 in that you were also digging. I think I'd see plenty of finger pointing going on if someone approached you.
    Where did I say I was digging in the post or even detecting? You should learn how to read a post.
    These "plugs" are no smaller than 8" and some are over 12".
    I couldn't go detecting in the park anyhow lest someone thought I made that mess. Its one thing to make a small plug and blend it in, these losers didn't even try.
    When it comes to detecting, you will always find me "out standing in the field".

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    Somebody needs to get those boys some Propointers! It would help keep the holes smaller.

    A good video ChicagoRon made on target recovery.
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    ism, you're right.. I should learn to read I never saw the bottom paragraph, just watched the videos.

    Then again, perhaps when you post, you put the story first

    Kind of like putting the cart before the horse there sparky

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    I'd agree with sandman...where is the dirt catcher so it's not everywhere...the sheet of plastic or whatever. I personally don't detect parks when it's totally dry like that. They still mow the weeds when they get high and just pull the plugs out and blow them everywhere!

    But in their defense, it didn't look like the area was very well maintained and they at least filled their holes in. It's the aftermath....dust dry plugs just waiting to be blown everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon View Post
    Somebody needs to get those boys some Propointers! It would help keep the holes smaller.

    A good video ChicagoRon made on target recovery.
    This is the right way to do it. But the hunters that need this help mostly don't care. These are the same slugs that shoot at signs on roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticm View Post
    The thing to do is wait for rain. Grass goes dormant.
    I'll disagree with you. Summer is prime metal detecting season and it hasn't rained here since early June. No way I'm going to give up several months of detecting while I wait for Mother Nature to provide some rain. It just isn't feasible. I detect with my kids when they are out of school for the summer and, if we followed your rules, we wouldn't have any time to detect.

 

 
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