Report in NY

[Darth Walker]

Whatcis the purpose of the report. Lets say I found draped bust silver dollas while MD. Do I have to return them to the city

 

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[pong12211]

No put it in your pocket and go home. Finders keepers.

 

[fuzzy535]

If the city wanted them they could be out looking for them too...

 

[Liu21]

HELL TO THE NO. Give me a good Reason WHY you should turn it in, or list it for next years permit..

 

[Keppy]

Only give them to the city or tell them you found them if you are a little crazy...

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Darth-walker, yours is a good question. And I see that rather than anyone answering the technical aspect of it, they are instead bristling at the thought of reporting anything, in the first place ! Ie.: if it's the "honor system", well, gee, then who's to say you didn't only find clad?"

To answer your question, even if you reported the bust half, and even if the policy was only for recording purposes, and they let you keep all your finds, ............ well that still gives me pause for concern. Here's why:

Let's say that everyone dutifully reported all their good old coin finds, all these last 10 or 20 yrs. there in NYC. And let's say that someone from the city compiled a tally, and determined the amount of $$ that was being spirited away by these arm-chair yahoos, from "city land" ? If info. like that got on the desk of an archie (who sees your bust half on the list, and all the others...), then ...... what do you think he's going to do? He'll make a fuss.

Hence sometimes its better that the public's perception of md'ing is that we md'rs just ply for recent change, match-box cars, etc...... There's no shortage of places where no one cares if you find clad. But "heaven help you" if you actually found something valuable.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The City of New York or the State of New York?

I don't report nuttin to nobody. But if I had agreed to some city or state park(?) to report my finds I guess I would be obligated to do that.

"Found, one dollar in change".

 

[Liu21]

That Metal Detecting Permit will turn into a license with a 25$ or 30$ fee attached...

 

[LI Tom]

He is talking about NYC permits,when you turn in last years permit to get a new one,on the back you are supposed to list finds worth over $20 value.You just write NONE and send it in.

 

[sponge]

Im pretty sure that bust u found was your great great grandfathers. Ah family memorabilia.

sent from a sending device.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

He is talking about NYC permits,when you turn in last years permit to get a new one,on the back you are supposed to list finds worth over $20 value.You just write NONE and send it in.

No problem. Seated Liberty Dollar - $1 value established by U.S. Mint (that's what a bank will give you).

$4 gold Stella

$10 gold eagle

$5 gold half-eagle

Total: $20 - not necessary to report.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

No problem. Seated Liberty Dollar - $1 value established by U.S. Mint (that's what a bank will give you).

$4 gold Stella

$10 gold eagle

$5 gold half-eagle

Total: $20 - not necessary to report.

ha, you sneaky feller you Charlie!

I had this sort of conversation with a lawyer, in regards to each State's Lost & found laws. Like in CA, for instance, if you find something worth over $100, you are required to turn it in to your local police dept for proper lost & found procedures. So I was asking the lawyer how value is determined. Ie.: does a person go by value when new? Or intrinsic melt value? Or face value (as in the case of coins like yours), etc... Because, think of it: Otherwise someone can find a brand new I-phone 6+ on a park bench (worth HUNDREDS of dollars, even used) and say to themselves: "gee, it only has a dollar of silicone, copper, plastic, etc... in it". The lawyer heed & hawed and finally came up with this answer: "You turn it in to the police, and let THEM decide on how it is valued".

Ok then, now that you have the legal answer, please go do the right thing, and turn in those gold coins. We'll all be proud of you.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

No real worries here . The next gold coin I find will be the first - and I only live 180 miles (and 60 light years) from New York City so they would HEAR THE SHOUTING FOR JOY if I did find one.

 

[jeff of pa]

the reason for the Lost & Found rule is so they can find the proper owner .

Tom_in_CA; if you find something worth over $100,
you are required to turn it in to your local police dept for proper lost & found procedures.

however, in my mind, If I find something lost 100, 50, even 25 years ago,
What are the odds the person who lost it is in records they can trace ?
and especially in the case of something 100 years old ?.
that in itself guarantees unless it was on a baby who is now one of the oldest living persons in the world,
with an eidetic memory since birth & checks in the lost & found daily,
there is no proper owner other then the finder imo.

If you find a jar of coins, and the police put it in the paper ,
can you guess how many will try to claim it ?
even insurance companies will probably get in the act of checking old robberies
to hopefully snag it.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

It looks like the lawyer dodged this one. If I understand the law correctly I think it says that you have to turn in anything over 20 dollar value. It does not say you have to get an opinion from the police as to what the value is. I think it would be best for someone to use their own judgement.

Kemper, each state has a different dollar value criteria. In CA, the cut-off is $100 or more value. Perhaps another state is as low as $20? I dunno. If so, then no doubt those were penciled in way back and the turn-of-century, when $20 really meant something! (born out of wandering cattle laws, etc...)

As for how to determine value, the law is silent on that. Thus, heck, I bet there's some cheesy pawn shops that might only offer a guy $90 for a $2000 ring, eh? So does that mean the ring is worth $90 ? doh!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... however, in my mind, If I find something lost 100, 50, even 25 years ago,
What are the odds the person who lost it is in records they can trace ? .....

Jeff-in-PA, what you are saying is logically true, but it is not legally true. Sorry about that buttercup The law makes no distinction on when YOU *think* something was lost. It simply sets a dollar value cutoff. And even though you found the target a certain # of inches deep, and so therefore, in your mind, it "must have been lost 100 yrs. ago", yet how do you know a gopher hole didn't put it that deep? Afterall, let's be honest: We've all had occasions where a clad dime is 10" deep, while a merc is practically right on top. Flukes *do* occur.

Hence since you are a law-abiding citizen, and in full-compliance with the code-of-ethics, we trust that you will start doing the right thing now, and turning in all your valuables for proper lost & found police efforts. Atteboy

 

[Phantasman]

Tennessee has no such law. It does, however, enforce ARPA (Archaeological Resources Protection Act), and if a detectorist finds archeological or historic artifacts, he/she is required to contact the state.(most don't) TVA quit issuing land permits for detecting, (comprising of many lakes and rivers in Tn) a few years ago. I can hunt all the coins/jewelry I want in my county. Our area is run by conservatives.