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    Looking for advice...

    I came across a FB forsale ad last night with a guy selling a whites DFX spectrum for 350.00. Im kinda thinking this is an older machine but the price is nice. But im also reading alot about the fisher F75 which ive found several for not much more. Im thinking the F75 is a little more currant but both were/are top models for their brands. Looking to upgrade my F4 but keep as a spare. Any thoughts or concerns with those two machines? Thanks in advance. ~Fuzzy
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy535 View Post
    I came across a FB forsale ad last night with a guy selling a whites DFX spectrum for 350.00. Im kinda thinking this is an older machine but the price is nice. But im also reading alot about the fisher F75 which ive found several for not much more. Im thinking the F75 is a little more currant but both were/are top models for their brands. Looking to upgrade my F4 but keep as a spare. Any thoughts or concerns with those two machines? Thanks in advance. ~Fuzzy
    Ive never swung a dfx. My dad has one and did ok with it.

    I do have an F75. IMO the current hot deal is the f75 plus as you get the new pinpointer and digger along with almost all the bells and whistles the f75 has to offer. I don't have a bad thing to say about my fisher. The battery life is awesome. It has plenty of depth. Amazing recovery even next to today's current machines. Super comfy to swing. Super easy to set up and navigate. It would be easy to learn coming from the f4 too. The DST will keep chatter to a minimum in any location also. All depends on what you want to spend I guess. I do know the F75 is a VERY versatile machine. Can hunt for deep objects in a field or pull keepers in thick iron....especially with a small coil!

    Good luck on your choice. Whites makes great machines too.
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    kinda leaning toward the F75. Theres a guy not far from me whos pretty good with his. I think it would be better to save up some more and go with that and be set for a while vs buy and older machine at a good price thats now an average machine. besides its not like ill be out digging anytime soon for a few months! so ill save up some more. and get what i want and not settle because of price. theres lots of deals out there anyway..
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    You could even wait for the Equinox to come out and watch some reviews. Pretty attainable price too.

    I'm not too far from you also. An hour drive for both and we could hunt. Could swing the f75 and see if you like the feel and performance. That's if we could find a spot somewhere on the Pa/Ohio line to hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighVDI View Post
    You could even wait for the Equinox to come out and watch some reviews. Pretty attainable price too.

    I'm not too far from you also. An hour drive for both and we could hunt. Could swing the f75 and see if you like the feel and performance. That's if we could find a spot somewhere on the Pa/Ohio line to hunt.
    not sure what the state laws are buy i did some camping up in presque isle last summer...thats got my gears turning....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy535 View Post
    not sure what the state laws are buy i did some camping up in presque isle last summer...thats got my gears turning....
    I'm in SW pa. Could travel up past Beaver PA to the line. Gotta be some parks nearby.
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    DFX is still a very capable machine, I have a 10x12 sef coil on mine and it gets some very nice deeper finds
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    With Fisher reducing their top of the line detector prices with the advertised F75+ deal $699, I expect the price of used F75LTDs to drop big time. The F75+ is an LTD and you also get one of their new pin pointers ($140 value) and a digging tool. I think you can get an additional $50 off with a promo code. When I got mine (back in 2014), they cost $1100 for the 2 coil package. With the additional goodies in the 75 plus deal your getting the detector for about $500, the cost of a new standard F75. The new plus has a transferable warranty.
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    Loco digger I saw it online for $649.00 I think....maybe that was after the 50 dollar promo. Hard to beat that deal.
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    also doing some looking at the AT Pro , it seems to be sorta comparable. im liking the water proof option too. i have a couple of water holes i like to hit. multiple machines are hard to convince the wife as to why i need more than one. you know cause they are all the same. Getting multiple handguns was challenging enough with her, a process i wish not to repeat! also the AT is a bit cheaper too. so many options makes it hard to decide...thank goodness the ground is froze and time is on my side for now...
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    All the main manufacturers have capable machines. It comes down to personal preference as to it's weight, features, it's feel, the tones, and the coil options. Here are my thoughts on the major companies.

    Nokta/Macro: first time I heard of them was when the Racer came out. Had big hoopla, but i do not know anyone who still swings one. I hear great things about the Impact though.

    Whites: The only brand detectors I have used that required the arm strap. Huge following and have some good machines. The MX Sport is waterproof and I know a dedicated MDers' who swing's it. The MXT Pro is also a good machine, If you like a complex machine, maybe the V3i series is your cup of tea.

    Garrett: The AT Pro has a huge following. I do not care for the bell tone that Garrett uses. The Max came out for $200 more with a lot of hype. To me it's an AT Pro running a better freq (IMHO) and has wireless capabilities. Is it worth the additional $200? They are waterproof so if you want to get wet, up to 10ft deep than you might want one of these.

    First Texas:

    Bounty Hunter: Low end machines for the beginner or those who have a smaller budget. Very capable machines, most without the bells and whistles. I must admit that I still think the Land Ranger Pro is the best bang for the buck.

    Teknetics: To me a good brand, but very similar to Fisher Labs almost like a stepchild, similar machines as Fisher or vise versa.

    Fisher Labs: I must be honest, I am biased. My 2nd machine is the F4 you own. It was an easy jump to the F75LTD from the F4. To me the best single freq VLF detector on the market for land hunting. I am content with pulling quarters at 10" and dimes at 8-8.5". The F4 would have hit on a majority of my good find since they were only between 4-7" deep. With over 3 years experience on this machine I have fun hunting with those that swing the Deus and CTX, we all find something. I also have a Fisher F70 which is just as capable as an F75SE. Since it runs the same freq as the F75. I have them set up with different coils just in case I need to change during a hunt. It's way easier to simply turn on another machine than to take time to swap coils. I must be getting lazy. Heck all of my coils have their own shafts already mounted.

    Minelab: The CTX 3030 is the best coin shooter around, many of my friends use one with great results, also killer on the beach, just a little pricey and weighs 4 lbs. The E-Trac is also a good coin shooter, I hear it likes a slower sweep and is also heavy. The 705 is a great buy for the buck. I am used to a target range of 1-99 and I like Fisher tones in lieu of the bwoop bwoop that minelabs make. I am interested in seeing what the Equinox series brings to the table.

    Deus: The XP Deus is all that and a bag of chips, ultra light, 4 separate freqs, wireless, allows you to tweak the settings more than most machines. I had one but sold it. It never hit an anything my current machine would not hit on. I have a hard time accepting change in certain technologies, I do not need those additional tweaks nor to have to remember to plug it in to charge. I prefer that if my detector dies during a hunt, that I have the ability to swap out batteries and continue swinging in lieu of having to quick charge it using a USB port in the lighter of a vehicle. Many users love their Deus and pull some great finds, In the few months I swung it, I found a gold class ring, a silver ring and my only capped bust coin. Many of my friends swing one. Again it's all about preference. The cost of additional coils run at a premium though. Eventually batteries will fail and need replaced which means a trip to the factory or authorized repair facility.

    Tesoro:
    They have a great following, durable with lifetime warranty, but one tone, The one tone is a killer for me. I like to hear multiple tones. Great machine for those who like to Beep and dig hunt.

    Final Thought: I see many other MDers continue to switch machines year over year, chasing extra depth and better performance switching out machines before they really understood them. I was caught up in that for a little and have owned a few detectors, many I bought because of their low price, wanting to experience other makes and models, knowing I would not lose any money and could play with it and then sell. I am very happy with my machine and it's capabilities and the selection of coils I have for different site conditions. Some folks are very proficient and can master many machines and have the money to invest in a multi machine arsenal. I am mainly a coin shooter who likes cool relics and some bling, but my passion is finding old coins and sometimes an occasional cladfest.
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    always good stuff with you loco! you've never steered me in the wrong direction and i value your opinion. i leaning heavily towards the fisher units. i figure more than likely ill be on dry land and not in the water. if a water hunt is desired im sure i could find a water unit. hint hint...or maybe down the road ill find a cheap one. but with your knowledge of the F75 i feel i would get a better grasp on it by learning from you vs on my own. then im not wasting my time or missing targets. trying to put myself in a situation where i get what i want and not settle for what i can afford. then have a machine that will last quite a few years.
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    Fuzzy, I'm right across the bridge from you over in Westpark. Give me a holler if you ever want to get together for a hunt and try out any of my machines. Temp's gotta be at least in the mid 40's though before I'll even poke my head out the front door. Take your time making a decision though. Our ground will probably be mostly frozen over for the next couple of months, and that Equinox might be worth waiting around for.

    Mark
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    Loco, I like your post. I have owned one of most of the manufacturers listed. I started out with a white's 4000 a long time ago. It found stuff. Then moved to a Tesoro Lobo, it found stuff. Then didn't detect for a long time and then got some different White's, Garretts, Bounty Hunters, Tesoros, one Fisher and now a Deus. I tried a couple Minelabs but they were too heavy for me. Haven't tried a Nokta or Teknetics, no dealers around me to test drive one. I'm not buying any machine based on hype, youtube or manufacturers' videos. Videos can be and sometimes are manipulated. Most times you can't tell which ones though.

    It's not the machine, it's the operator. I've walked right behind people on the beach, literally looking at their footsteps and found gold and other stuff right where they were.

    The rules are as such: 1) get a machine, get off the couch and detect 2) make sure the machine is on and you have new batteries or it's recently charged. I'm not being sarcastic. Here's the scoop. From personal experience, I have turned the machine off for a rest break or lunch, picked it back up and walked 50' and wondered why no signals and discovered I hadn't turned it back on. More than once. On a long beach hunt, far from the car, I take a spare battery (for the Tesoro) with me. 3) If there are no good targets where you are digging to begin with, you are not going to find them. The stuff has to be there first. This year I have been shocked to find some of my items. For instance. A friend of mine bought a farm last year. I asked to detect. They didn't mind. We accidentally found a Civil War picket post on the farm! Go figure! And around some of the landscaping found a wedding ring, probably lost when the shrubbery was put in. You just don't know.

    As far as parks go, I think it's time to think out of the box and find permissions. I have read a lot of bad publicity recently about people digging in parks, they left holes, and unfortunately, I think the days of digging parks is almost over. It's a shame some detectorists ruin it for everyone.

    And your "final thought" is dead on.
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    For the last several years I've really tried to support only American manufacturers. We still have some good stuff. The V3i, the MX Sport, the F75 LTD etc. But even I am extremely tempted by the Equinox in a way that I haven't been by the Deus and CTX-3030. I know from my V3i how much of an advantage it is to be able to switch frequencies or to run them simultaneously. That ability is why I chose the V3i over the other top machines. The Equinox and that new pinpointer with iron tone has my mind pretty busy lately.
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