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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    Wait for the Minelab Equinox 800 if you want a combo Gold Nugget, Coinshooter. AT Gold is a nugget hunter period (and not a good one), AT Pro is a coinshooter period. Minelab XTerra 705 needs Different coils to change the operating frequencies for nuggets, and coins. Fisher F75, operating at 13kHz, is too low for gold nuggets, and too high for deep silver coins. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
    The AT Pro is a coinshooter period? Really? I have found an immense amount of relics with my AT Pro. Everything from Roman, 1700s, Civil War era, WWI and WWII relics. This includes everything from musket/pistol balls, buttons, UXO's, rifles, magazines, ammunition, hat pins, shoe buckles, rings and other various types of jewelry, religious medallions......the list goes on and on. And yes the AT Pro does find coins too. Don't get me wrong, the AT Pro may not be the best detector out there but it is definitely an amazing work horse which does not disappoint. It will always remain in my arsenal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    OK GT, and hey, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell cheap!
    Hey Terry,,
    Can I get in on that Bridge Sale??
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  3. #18
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    Just Some YouTube Dude

    Feb 2015
    Central California
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    OK GT, and hey, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell cheap!
    I'll make sure your toll is cheap when you cross!

    To the OP or others interested...just YouTube scannerguy1968 and F75...he hits a grain sized piece of gold in disc (not AM). If Loco-Digger says he can hit a 8-9 dime with his...bank on it. Terry needs to stick to bridge sales.

    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal View Post
    I had a G2 i did not like it did run Quit two processors , mine lacked depth i used it one season maybe 1000 hours on it and had the worst season in 40 years.
    The G2 running a 19Khz picked up every tiny piece of tin roofing around old home / cabin sites drove me nuts i had to get my first pin pointer cuz it loves the tiny specks relics are not tiny nothing very deep its a pos IMO
    I don`t like the higher freq. 19Khz so i sold it and started to use my F-75 and T2 both good machines the G2 stinks.my old hunting partner hated it too, never heard anyone call the G2 a deep machine...and is no better in the iron than a Omega or T2, F-75.
    We both come from BfO and TR analog machines so we know what we are doing but some time in wounder Cuz i bought a Nokta Relic it ran at 19 Khz again no depth and loved tiny flakes of tin drove me crazy.
    I have a Deus now and i hate to run it 18 Khz .
    I would not recommend the G2 to any relic hunter,though i`m sure it`s a good gold machine.
    The T2,Omega F-75 wipe the floor with the G2 !
    Gary
    T2 and F75 are of course deeper than a G2...that's a no brainer.

    However...the G2+ adds notching...Vbreak...two-tone audio. Relic guys have been VERY successful with them. Crossed sabers...eagle button...CW bullets. They are fantastic relic machines down to the 7-8 inch level and absolutely kill it in iron.

    Guys in UK have been raving about them for quite a while now. F19 is the same machine as a G2+...and it is well known as a civil war bullet magnet.

  4. #19
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    Relic guy have been VERY successful with all kinds of machines,but most prefer other machines than the G2.
    The guys in the UK rave about the Deus and the T2 a lot more that the G2 like it matters.
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    I`v been detecting for 49 years owned my own detector shop G.A.P. Metal Detectors here in N.Y.
    See my old adds in Western & Eastern Treasures and Lost Treasure Magazines through the 90s
    I hunt the Sullivan Trail here in N.Y.
    "Success is just Rented, Never Owned and the Rent is due Daily"
    "Its the Golden Rule who ever has the Gold Rules"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdSl2jFjlE

  5. #20
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    Just Some YouTube Dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal View Post
    Relic guy have been VERY successful with all kinds of machines,but most prefer other machines than the G2.
    The guys in the UK rave about the Deus and the T2 a lot more that the G2 like it matters.
    I don't disagree with that at all. But that's a moot point since I'm not the one calling it a POS or a "so-so" relic machine.

    You were using the G2 and not the G2+. The G2+ has the added options of 2-tones and Vbreak I mentioned above...that does indeed make it much better as a relic hunter compared to the single VCO tone the G2 assigns to every signal.

    As far as your claim that Dave does not like it being called an "all around machine"...

    When my wife and I met Dave at the factory tour a year back...he and Jorge Saad were very impressed with my wife who uses a F19 (same as G2+). Her eagle button and multiple Mexican Wars bullets from the 1840's had him grinning ear to ear. Many of which my T2 Classic could barely hit when we compared signals. It absolutely loves mid-conductors being a high freq "gold machine". It does not take rocket science to realize what it does with larger mid-conductors like bullets and buttons.
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  6. #21
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    Chronic Patriot/Metal Detecting,it`s My Lifestyle !

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    "Kan-a-we-o-la" Head on a Pole N.Y. Seneca Territory of The Six Nations 1779.. now in Catlin N.Y.
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    I was using the G2/GB and to put out a G2+ so soon after G2 release just proves my point.
    The two tone Vbreak and Vco on the G2+ Are just bells and whistles have nothing to do with performance.
    Dave Johnson used to post here for many years as "Woof" and we shared many Private Emails on here stating just what i said.
    His computer had software problems when the software was changed here and stooped posting here
    He`s on another MD Forum we are both on posting in his own name ask him.
    I have followed Dave Johnson from company to company like a Groupie does a rock star he`s a brilliant man and had a hand in many very good machines i used for more than 20 years the G2 not one of them.
    You never finished your Dave statement what is it ?
    As for touring the factory you told them you liked their product and they smiled ...just being polite and nice.
    I have been to that factory 5 times and long ago the Fisher 3 times and Whites,and Tesoro like it matters .
    Last edited by G.A.P.metal; Jan 03, 2018 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Trump told me to !
    I`v been detecting for 49 years owned my own detector shop G.A.P. Metal Detectors here in N.Y.
    See my old adds in Western & Eastern Treasures and Lost Treasure Magazines through the 90s
    I hunt the Sullivan Trail here in N.Y.
    "Success is just Rented, Never Owned and the Rent is due Daily"
    "Its the Golden Rule who ever has the Gold Rules"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdSl2jFjlE

  7. #22
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    Just Some YouTube Dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal View Post
    I was using the G2/GB and to put out a G2+ so soon after G2 release just proves my point.
    The two tone Vbreak and Vco on the G2+ Are just bells and whistles have nothing to do with performance.
    Dave Johnson used to post here for many years as "Woof" and we shared many Private Emails on here stating just what i said.
    His computer had software problems when the software was changed here and stooped posting here
    He`s on another MD Forum we are both on posting in his own name ask him.
    I have followed Dave Johnson from company to company like a Groupie does a rock star he`s a brilliant man and had a hand in many very good machines i used for more than 20 years the G2 not one of them.
    You never finished your Dave statement what is it ?
    As for touring the factory you told them you liked their product and they smiled ...just being polite and nice.
    I have been to that factory 5 times and long ago the Fisher 3 times and Whites,and Tesoro like it matters .
    I'm not sure what half of that has to do with the topic at hand GAP. I thought we were talking G2+ and F75 being capable in other areas?

    Hell...I toured the factory when First Texas decided to sponsor my YouTube channel and bring me on as a prototype tester. It was a personal invite...not some fanboy crush thing that you have. It was business. You don't have to sell me on Dave (or the company). I work with the testing/sales/marketing team on a regular basis. Often daily.

    Back on topic...the G2+ and G2 differences.

    The G2+ has those added "bells and whistles" BECAUSE the G2 (Gold Bug Pro) was doing so well as a relic hunter. They didn't add VBreak - 2 tones - Notching for gold prospecting purposes which is done in AM mode. Which is why the F19 and G2+ are marketed as relic and coin machines on the boxes they come in. They are not performance enhancing features - but they 100% make a relic hunters and coin shooters life much easier compared to the G2 without them.

    They kept the Gold Bug Pro as it is for a reason...for the gold prospecting market. They added the G2+ and F19 for a reason...everybody else.

    Anyways...this is getting off topic. Happy Hunting and best of luck to the topic starter with whatever detector you choose.
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  8. #23
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    Aug 2016
    Middleburgh, NY
    Whites: Spectra V3i, MX Sport, Bullseye TRX. Fisher: F75 LTD, 1280-X, F2. XP: Deus. Minelab: X-terra 70, Garrett: AT Pro, Ace 250, Propointer II. Tesoro: Compadre. Bounty Hunter: LRP, QDP, 3300, 2200,
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    Help me decide which one ??????????????????

    First Texas does make some hellish machines for gold and deep silver even when you consider their sort of mid range operating frequency and single frequency operation. I've seen machines like the etrac, Deus and even my own V3i walk right over 2.2 grams of gold that was singing on a T2 and gold bug even at 7". Multi or high frequency isn't always what matters. It's all about how they are tuned. When it comes to the best of both worlds, First Texas machines have it, and often leave guys like me scratching my head. They are sensitive enough to pick up tiny bits of gold and meteorite, but can also pull silver coins out past 10"-12". Biggest mistake I made was selling off all my FT machines for multifrequency and FBS machines...and I even kinda knew better. It's a mistake I'll be correcting this season. The Equinox does also seem appealing, but it really seems like just an expanded version of something we already have...the V3i. If I were you I'd grab up that T2+ or F75+ deal for now. You won't regret it. I'm an arsenal Hunter myself. I believe in understanding all the universal principles of metal detecting and assembling an arsenal of machines for different hunting purposes. And don't believe the hype from Minelab. The Equinox will not obsolete all single frequency VLF. Won't happen. A machine tuned for a specific frequency and hunting application will always be best for that application. In mild soil especially it hardly matters how many frequencies you have. In any case, FT may not be the most advanced company on the block (that you've seen yet, I stress YET) when it comes to all those frequencies and color screens etc, but they have their own genius, and that is how they can make machines so light, fast, energy efficient, and powerful on half the voltage other guys are running.
    Last edited by ☠ Cipher; Jan 05, 2018 at 11:39 AM.

  9. #24
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    Aug 2016
    Middleburgh, NY
    Whites: Spectra V3i, MX Sport, Bullseye TRX. Fisher: F75 LTD, 1280-X, F2. XP: Deus. Minelab: X-terra 70, Garrett: AT Pro, Ace 250, Propointer II. Tesoro: Compadre. Bounty Hunter: LRP, QDP, 3300, 2200,
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    I would also add that I find the added features on the G2+ very valuable. Notch width and v-break are probably some of the best tools we have available to distinguish one metal from another or a nickel from a pull tab at depth. I found it very helpful on the Land Ranger Pro. Miss that feature most of all.
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  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astro Nut View Post
    ..... I want a detector that can be used also for prospecting sometimes ....
    Be aware that any detector which touts ability to do both coins/relics AND nuggets (ie.: a cross-over machine), will excell in neither arena. There will be better nugget machines and there will be better coin machines. Because the objective of each venue is nearly diametrically opposed. A coin/relic guy DOESN'T want to hear every staple, birdshot, fleck, BB, etc... While the nugget guy DOES want the bells of notre dame to ring on that stuff.

    So any machine that .... with the flips of a few controls ... is supposed to go back and forth, will have compromises. When compared to a machine built fromt he ground-up for just one purpose.

  11. #26

    Aug 2015
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    Check out the Nokta Impact.

    Many modes and audio settings, and can change between 5kHz, 14kHz, and 20kHz with the press of a button.

  12. #27
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    Chronic Patriot/Metal Detecting,it`s My Lifestyle !

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    Astro Nut
    IMO the F-75+ is your best choice,but if you got to have a Minelab 705 ,i`d wait till the new Minelab 600 or 800 are out and tested over a couple months.
    I`v been doing this for 49 years and have seen a lot of hype in print and on the net about EVERY new machines coming out some love them some hate them, but most love the 75.
    Be very careful of the newbies giving advice on here !
    Gary
    Last edited by G.A.P.metal; Jan 06, 2018 at 05:43 AM. Reason: Trump told me to !
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    I`v been detecting for 49 years owned my own detector shop G.A.P. Metal Detectors here in N.Y.
    See my old adds in Western & Eastern Treasures and Lost Treasure Magazines through the 90s
    I hunt the Sullivan Trail here in N.Y.
    "Success is just Rented, Never Owned and the Rent is due Daily"
    "Its the Golden Rule who ever has the Gold Rules"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqdSl2jFjlE

  13. #28
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    I think GT may have already bought a bridge.


    I don't detect for the stuff I find, I detect for the stuff I haven't found.

    If I didn't find it I hope you did.


  14. #29
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    Sep 2012
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    The AT Pro is a great detector. Mine paid for it's self in 90 days and probably found over 2k in clad with it. If you listen closely it will tell you even vary faint signals.. I have found clad at 12" that I only dug to see if there was something really there.

    I am going to give my V3i to my grandson and keep my E-trac and ATP and then buy and Equinox
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    I don't detect for the stuff I find, I detect for the stuff I haven't found.

    If I didn't find it I hope you did.


  15. #30
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    Aug 2016
    Middleburgh, NY
    Whites: Spectra V3i, MX Sport, Bullseye TRX. Fisher: F75 LTD, 1280-X, F2. XP: Deus. Minelab: X-terra 70, Garrett: AT Pro, Ace 250, Propointer II. Tesoro: Compadre. Bounty Hunter: LRP, QDP, 3300, 2200,
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    I am going to give my V3i to my grandson and keep my E-trac and ATP and then buy and Equinox[/QUOTE]

    Your grandson will be a lucky kid. The V3i is an amazing machine that unfortunately many people were intimidated by. I geek out on the technical side of this hobby and so the V3i was a perfect fit for me. To me there are certain machines that should be in every arsenal and it is one of them. It's basically a build your own machine kit. We may never see this much access to internal functions again.

 

 
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