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    Any wars fought in Oregon?

    Iíve been seeing some posts of people finding civil war buckles and relics down in Cali. I was just wondering, has there ever been a recorded war or battle fought in Oregon? Too bad weíre one of the newest states, hard to find anything older than 1950 lol.

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    Lightbulb Civil War Posts in Oregon:

    Civil War posts, Oregon:

    Fort Dalles, Oregon, (1850—1867)
    Fort Yamhill, Oregon (1856—1866)
    Fort Hoskins, Oregon, (1857—1865)
    Siletz Blockhouse, Oregon (1858-1866) [2]
    Camp Baker, Oregon (1862-1865),[3]
    Camp Barlow, Oregon, (1862) [4]
    Camp Clackamas, Oregon, (1862) [5]
    Post at Grand Ronde Indian Agency or Fort Lafayette, Oregon 1863,[6]
    Fort Klamath, Oregon, (1863—1890)
    Fort at Point Adams, Oregon (1863-1865)
    Fort Stevens, Oregon (1865-1947)
    Camp Alvord, Oregon (1864-1866) [7]
    Camp Dalgren, Oregon (1864) [8]
    Camp Henderson, Oregon, 1864-1866 [9]
    Camp Lincoln, Oregon 1864[10]
    Camp Maury, Oregon 1864[11]
    Camp Russell, Oregon 1864-1865 [12]
    Camp Watson, Oregon 1864-1869
    Camp Colfax, Oregon, 1865, 1867[13]
    Camp Currey, Oregon 1865-1866 [14]
    Camp Logan, Oregon (1865-1868) [15]
    Camp Lyon, Oregon (1865-1869) [16][17]
    Camp Polk, Oregon (1865-1866) [18]
    Camp on Silvies River, Oregon (1864?) [19]
    Camp Wright, Oregon (1865-1866) [20]
    Old Camp Warner, Oregon (1866-1867)[21]
    Camp Warner, Oregon (1867-1874)[22]

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    There need not have been a "war", to find old military buttons, etc.... They could be, as nor-cal-smitty says: From forts and posts. Were the military guys often moved out to California after the Civil War, and kept their old uniforms as clothing they wore.
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    Thanks a lot for the list of info NorCal! And that is true Tom, the only problem with forts is, you canít metal detect them. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloHunter View Post
    .... the only problem with forts is, you can’t metal detect them. Right?
    If they are a sensitive protected Monument, then of course. But not all Forts and posts are that type of land locations.

    If they are middle of nowhere, then it is game on in my book. Or if they are on private land, the private owner can let you do whatever the heck he wants/allows there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloHunter View Post
    Thanks a lot for the list of info NorCal! And that is true Tom, the only problem with forts is, you can’t metal detect them. Right?
    Just be sure it is not on government land, otherwise it can get you into trouble with the American Antiquities Act Of 1906.
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    Alright, Iím near a couple of those forts, so Iíll do some research. Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalSmitty View Post
    Civil War posts, Oregon:

    Fort Dalles, Oregon, (1850—1867)
    Fort Yamhill, Oregon (1856—1866)
    Fort Hoskins, Oregon, (1857—1865)
    Siletz Blockhouse, Oregon (1858-1866) [2]
    Camp Baker, Oregon (1862-1865),[3]
    Camp Barlow, Oregon, (1862) [4]
    Camp Clackamas, Oregon, (1862) [5]
    Post at Grand Ronde Indian Agency or Fort Lafayette, Oregon 1863,[6]
    Fort Klamath, Oregon, (1863—1890)
    Fort at Point Adams, Oregon (1863-1865)
    Fort Stevens, Oregon (1865-1947)
    Camp Alvord, Oregon (1864-1866) [7]
    Camp Dalgren, Oregon (1864) [8]
    Camp Henderson, Oregon, 1864-1866 [9]
    Camp Lincoln, Oregon 1864[10]
    Camp Maury, Oregon 1864[11]
    Camp Russell, Oregon 1864-1865 [12]
    Camp Watson, Oregon 1864-1869
    Camp Colfax, Oregon, 1865, 1867[13]
    Camp Currey, Oregon 1865-1866 [14]
    Camp Logan, Oregon (1865-1868) [15]
    Camp Lyon, Oregon (1865-1869) [16][17]
    Camp Polk, Oregon (1865-1866) [18]
    Camp on Silvies River, Oregon (1864?) [19]
    Camp Wright, Oregon (1865-1866) [20]
    Old Camp Warner, Oregon (1866-1867)[21]
    Camp Warner, Oregon (1867-1874)[22]
    Nice job Smitty,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    Just be sure it is not on government land, otherwise it can get you into trouble with the American Antiquities Act Of 1906.
    That would only apply to federal land. Not necessarily subrogated down to state or county or city levels. Unless done so by specific inclusion.

    Because, think about it Treasure-hunter: If what you are saying is true (that all govt. land is held to ARPA standards), then none of us could ever (gasp) find coins more than 50 yrs. old on govt. land. And a quick look down the "finds forums" pages, shows that .... uh .... old coins are ROUTINELY being found on public land.
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    NorCalSmitty - Source?

    NorCalSmitty -

    What was your source for the Fort/Camp info? Would they have other state, as well?

    Thanks
    Ken

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    Last Saturday my niece and I were detecting some land on the Washington side of the river across from the Dalles, or. We got investigated by a Washington state policeman, and two federal game /indian police for being on land that they THINK belongs to the corps of engineers. They were very polite, but spent the best part of an hour checking our id and made the niece show places she had dug and covered back up. We were very intimidated in the process. You would have thought we dug up some state treasure or something. They investigate any "trespass" on land between hwy 14 in Washington and SR 84 in Oregon. All lands between deemed fed property, no trespass. I feel they overstepped their authority, but how does
    one challenge them? Anyhow, that sure takes a lot of the fun out of detecting. They would rather have artifacts rust and rot away than for someone to get use of them. Owell
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    Poor old Tom: Welcome to one of the FINER web forum's on the net. You will fit in perfectly here and with all your knowledge will be appreciated !! As to your issues with the government people the other group mentioned we both know they want to control EVERYONE 1!! I just know i am sure glad to see you on board HERE BUDDY !!!
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    POT = Poor Old Tom, What you need to do is contact The local tv stations and news papers and tell them how you were treated for following the laws out there. With the Bundy ordeal with the government. People need to understand how some times the enforcers can get out of hand. Call the tv stations hopefully you can find one looking for a story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor old tom View Post
    Last Saturday my niece and I were detecting some land on the Washington side of the river across from the Dalles, or. We got investigated by a Washington state policeman, and two federal game /indian police for being on land that they THINK belongs to the corps of engineers.....
    Poor-old-Tom: I put "Indian" in bold print in your quote. THERE is your reason. The area you are in right there, is heavily riddled in indian history. The seminal book "Stone age on the Columbia River", back in the 1960s, made indian artifact hunting popular there.

    But as time went on, the era of archaeological awareness set in. And even though YOU weren't hunting for indian artifacts (the indians had no refined metals after all), yet there's a cross-over "contact period" there, where the indians were getting trade items from the explorers and incoming Europeans. Eg.: buttons, coins, etc.... (have you heard of Phoenix buttons ? I've found over 100 of them down here). So I'm a bit familiar with the sensitivities of *just* these type trade objects (that ... heaven forbid ... might have been handled or lost by an indian). And a bit familiar with the sensitivities that occur when you bump into an indian who's all "Rah rah" about his "ancestor's land".

    Thus I do not construe your experience there, to be anything more than an isolated hot-spot, for JUST your one area. Ie.: a fluke. If it were me, I'd just give it a little break, and ... in the future, just be sure not to bump into those exact individuals again (assuming there's no actual true express specific "no md'ing" rule). Because if all they're doing is to invoke some trumped up verbiage about "artifacts" then .... ok, don't find anything older than 50 yrs. old. (how good is your math?).

    Or, let me put it to you like this: It's entirely possible to get pulled over and roughed up by an over-zealous cop, for nothing but a tail-light out. Right ? Ie.: spend an hour checking your ID, intimidating you, citing scary sounding laws about tail-lights, etc... Eh ? But seriously now: You and I would KNOW this is a fluke. And going forward, if you knew that exact over-zealous cop tended to hang out at a certain speed trap, then you'd simply be very careful in his area, going forward. You would NOT assume "oh no, I can't drive anywhere ever again", and "all cops hate me and are waiting to bust my chops". So too is it with md'ing: There are going to be spots (as I say, Columbia river has some hot spot indian stuff) where, sure... you *might* bump into a bored indian waiting to give a hassle to someone who might be looking for indian artifacts. Just avoid that one spot, or pick better times. But I do not construe this as somehow meaning that you are needing to avoid all federal and state land, from here-on-out.
    Last edited by Tom_in_CA; Apr 04, 2018 at 07:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gare View Post
    ... What you need to do is contact The local tv stations and news papers and tell them how you were treated....
    Uh, sorry, I disagree. The LAST thing we md'rs need, is to make a stink, and wave a bunch of red flags saying "look at me". Let's be totally honest Gare: Md'ing has ... uh ... "connotations". That you might be about to "take" or "remove" something. That you might be about to "dig". And in the context of poor-old-tom: "you might be about to disturb an indian object". Thus, get real: If you went to the media to make a stink, you might only dig a deeper hole for yourself.

    Md'ing is one of those odd-ball hobbies where: The LESS attention we get is the better. Not the MORE attention.
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