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Nov 11, 2018, 04:25 PM
#1
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
OK this is the second time now this is getting ridiculous
The question is is it me or is it the shovel?
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Nov 11, 2018, 04:51 PM
#2
I have broke many over the years, but in 2012 I found a MD shop in Hamburg Germany that sold what seemed to be fairly decent shovels at the time. Considering I had just busted another and did not want to wait on one from the states I order that online, figured I would just use it until it gave way. Still have it and never had an issue with it.
Do not know the name, or if it even has a name, but they still sell them at the same online shop. I also got my sand scoop from there to, broke a few of those but not this one.
Sorry I can not add the link, against the rules.
 Originally Posted by G.I.B.
I'm not an Idiot Whisperer. I can't help you any further with the math.
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Nov 11, 2018, 04:56 PM
#3
Don't buy imported junk ~ best I found is the military folding trenching tool. Great shovel. Lots of imports at near the price of surplus.
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Nov 11, 2018, 04:58 PM
#4
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by Oddjob
I have broke many over the years, but in 2012 I found a MD shop in Hamburg Germany that sold what seemed to be fairly decent shovels at the time. Considering I had just busted another and did not want to wait on one from the states I order that online, figured I would just use it until it gave way. Still have it and never had an issue with it.
Do not know the name, or if it even has a name, but they still sell them at the same online shop. I also got my sand scoop from there to, broke a few of those but not this one.
Sorry I can not add the link, against the rules.
Oddjob this is damn ridiculous. I’m sorry but the metal looks thin to me.
I’ll admit I’m hard on equipment but come on. I already had it welded one time myself
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Nov 11, 2018, 05:12 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by Truth1253
Oddjob this is damn ridiculous. I’m sorry but the metal looks thin to me.
I’ll admit I’m hard on equipment but come on. I already had it welded one time myself
Yeah I am hard on my stuff too, had a good many welded. Then I purchased that stainless shovel, figured it might last a little longer, and it has.
Mess a day up real fast though, especially if it is early on or if your really on some good finds.
 Originally Posted by G.I.B.
I'm not an Idiot Whisperer. I can't help you any further with the math.
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Nov 11, 2018, 05:15 PM
#6
 Kace
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Nov 11, 2018, 05:29 PM
#7
 WolfPack member
Welcome to the world of made in china garbage.
YOU KNOW MY STANCE,LIVE FREE OR DIE
Liberals,too stupid to know that they are really communists.
“A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth
becomes a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell

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Nov 11, 2018, 06:11 PM
#8
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by Oddjob
Yeah I am hard on my stuff too, had a good many welded. Then I purchased that stainless shovel, figured it might last a little longer, and it has.
Mess a day up real fast though, especially if it is early on or if your really on some good finds.
I know what you’re saying I have to admit at the time I was a little happier broke because it made me leave LOL
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Nov 11, 2018, 06:11 PM
#9
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by Red James Cash
Welcome to the world of made in china garbage.
Man Red you hit that on the head. Sad
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Nov 11, 2018, 06:34 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Truth1253
I know what you’re saying I have to admit at the time I was a little happier broke because it made me leave LOL
You ever figure on just fabricating your own digging tool. Some things it seems like they are just designed to break and get in back into the store to buy a newer version and maybe some other stuff you really do not need.
One of my digging tool I use I found in the forest in Switzerland, actually found two that day. Both are called a Hookaroon, always been a big collector of small forestry hand tools, but these where not like the American made stuff I had collected my whole life, they where from a German firm called Mueller or Müller (depending on what keyboard you have).
Darn thing just leaned against a tree, no sign at all of any forestry work done. I can not even think of a time when tree had been taken in that area.
Anyway, i was headed down to a stream to dig cracks and flips rocks, and thought, well if I can break them then I will add them to my collection. The five footer was a beast, but the little one about a foot and half was really good. Only used the five footer a few other times since, but the little one is my good to tool now when I head out for cracks or flipping rocks.
Sure was not made for it, but it does the job like it was.
Told my neighbour there about it, he watches after our property for us because we do not live there. He loves to hunt nuggets too, well a Swiss nugget is more like what some folks in the US on the youtube call pickers and do not seem so enthusiastic about.
Fella told me that he also has a German Hookaroon, but that he made his own shovel. He said you either buys German made stainless or make your own gear. LOL Then he said but nuggets in Europe do not pay for high quality german stainless, so he made his.
Back in Texas on the ranch we often made our own tools; took and old disc that was not worth saving and cut up one of the disc and made some post hole diggers, root busters and a hoe. I would bet you get your hands on something like that and you could make a pretty good long lasting tool. Seen plemty of the same repurpose skill in Lousiana. Heck if you do not have something laying around in the yard then just head to Toledo Bend, used to find all sorts of good stuff on the river banks there.
Tools these days (since the 80s) seems like they are made for city folk trying to decorate their garden sheds.
 Originally Posted by G.I.B.
I'm not an Idiot Whisperer. I can't help you any further with the math.
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Nov 11, 2018, 07:39 PM
#11
You need a friend who welds like I have
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE’RE FULL UP HERE
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Nov 11, 2018, 07:44 PM
#12
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by jeff-gordon
You need a friend who welds like I have
I do he already welded it once last month
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Nov 11, 2018, 07:45 PM
#13
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by Oddjob
You ever figure on just fabricating your own digging tool. Some things it seems like they are just designed to break and get in back into the store to buy a newer version and maybe some other stuff you really do not need.
One of my digging tool I use I found in the forest in Switzerland, actually found two that day. Both are called a Hookaroon, always been a big collector of small forestry hand tools, but these where not like the American made stuff I had collected my whole life, they where from a German firm called Mueller or Müller (depending on what keyboard you have).
Darn thing just leaned against a tree, no sign at all of any forestry work done. I can not even think of a time when tree had been taken in that area.
Anyway, i was headed down to a stream to dig cracks and flips rocks, and thought, well if I can break them then I will add them to my collection. The five footer was a beast, but the little one about a foot and half was really good. Only used the five footer a few other times since, but the little one is my good to tool now when I head out for cracks or flipping rocks.
Sure was not made for it, but it does the job like it was.
Told my neighbour there about it, he watches after our property for us because we do not live there. He loves to hunt nuggets too, well a Swiss nugget is more like what some folks in the US on the youtube call pickers and do not seem so enthusiastic about.
Fella told me that he also has a German Hookaroon, but that he made his own shovel. He said you either buys German made stainless or make your own gear. LOL Then he said but nuggets in Europe do not pay for high quality german stainless, so he made his.
Back in Texas on the ranch we often made our own tools; took and old disc that was not worth saving and cut up one of the disc and made some post hole diggers, root busters and a hoe. I would bet you get your hands on something like that and you could make a pretty good long lasting tool. Seen plemty of the same repurpose skill in Lousiana. Heck if you do not have something laying around in the yard then just head to Toledo Bend, used to find all sorts of good stuff on the river banks there.
Tools these days (since the 80s) seems like they are made for city folk trying to decorate their garden sheds.
I’m telling yeah everything over here is turning the crap. Need to find something strong but light. Is there such a thing? Lol
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Nov 11, 2018, 07:47 PM
#14
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Nov 11, 2018, 07:50 PM
#15
 I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson
 Originally Posted by jeff-gordon
Titanium
Do they make titanium shovels? I’m serious I’m breaking these left and right and they’re expensive!
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