Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Results 1 to 11 of 11
Like Tree21Likes
  • 4 Post By Truth1253
  • 2 Post By against the wind
  • 2 Post By Tom_in_CA
  • 4 Post By Kray Gelder
  • 2 Post By Truth1253
  • 2 Post By Truth1253
  • 1 Post By Professor of Engineering
  • 1 Post By Sandancer
  • 2 Post By Tom_in_CA
  • 1 Post By Sandancer

Thread: We’re just better at it

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #1
    Charter Member
    us
    I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson

    Apr 2016
    Abita Springs La....Born in New Orleans
    EQUINOX 800
    10,290
    20909 times
    Metal Detecting

    We’re just better at it

    Very good read
    Archaeologist vs Detectorist https://amp.theguardian.com/science/...archaeologists

  2. #2
    Charter Member
    us
    DEPLORABLE

    Jul 2015
    Port Allegheny, Pennsylvania
    E-trac, Excalibur, XP Deus, & CTX 3030.
    20,637
    20195 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    Good read Truth.
    Truth1253 and Kray Gelder like this.
    SOMETIMES I WISH I DIDN'T KNOW NOW ,,, WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW THEN,, Bob Seger

  3. #3
    us
    Dec 2018
    Tulsa,Ok
    F75+ fisher 11”,5” dd coils F pulse pin pointer Black widow headphones Predator 31c raptor hand digger, Whites mxt e-tracker stock 9” ,4x6,coil Garrett AT Pro,ground shrark
    93
    89 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Thanks for the link
    From the high tone bells to the low tone grunts Just call me gone on history’s hunt!!!

  4. #4

    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
    Explorer II, Compass 77b, Tesoro shadow X2
    13,667
    10020 times
    Banner Finds (4)
    Truth 123: Thanx for the link. Some observtions:

    a) This is about Britain, not the USA. But interesting nonetheless, because :

    b) Notice that this article puts-to-rest the notion that the British is some sort of harmonious hand-holding between archies and md'rs. Notice that the archie community in the UK is STILL VERY MUCH not in harmony with us. And the only thing this system of theirs (where you "declare" your better finds) does, is simply EVER MORE PUT US ON THEIR RADAR to hate.

    It does not in any way open up sites . And simply creates more reason to want to regulate "those evil md'rs.

    So when I read an article like that, it's all-the-more reason to stay as far off their radar as possible. The less they think about us, the better. So I groan when I see some USA md'r think that there's some sort of model there in the UK, that the USA should consider. It will never happen (since the "crown" here does not own all resources under the ground, like it does in the UK). And if any sort of hand-holding was ever suggested (where we gleefully share and show artifacts), is the moment all heck would break loose here.
    Truth1253 and T.C. like this.

  5. #5
    Charter Member
    us
    papa

    Feb 2017
    Georgetown, SC
    Fisher F75
    2,863
    4912 times
    Metal Detecting
    Interesting. I respect the field of archeology, and have many books written by these professionals. Much knowledge to be gained. On the other hand, I bristle at some of these academics' attitude that an object exists only to be left in the ground for them to find, catalog, label, and store in some university basement, never to be seen or enjoyed again.
    T.C., Tom_in_CA, Truth1253 and 1 others like this.


    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralising temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilisation', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian, written AD 98.

  6. #6
    Charter Member
    us
    I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson

    Apr 2016
    Abita Springs La....Born in New Orleans
    EQUINOX 800
    10,290
    20909 times
    Metal Detecting
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Truth 123: Thanx for the link. Some observtions:

    a) This is about Britain, not the USA. But interesting nonetheless, because :

    b) Notice that this article puts-to-rest the notion that the British is some sort of harmonious hand-holding between archies and md'rs. Notice that the archie community in the UK is STILL VERY MUCH not in harmony with us. And the only thing this system of theirs (where you "declare" your better finds) does, is simply EVER MORE PUT US ON THEIR RADAR to hate.

    It does not in any way open up sites . And simply creates more reason to want to regulate "those evil md'rs.

    So when I read an article like that, it's all-the-more reason to stay as far off their radar as possible. The less they think about us, the better. So I groan when I see some USA md'r think that there's some sort of model there in the UK, that the USA should consider. It will never happen (since the "crown" here does not own all resources under the ground, like it does in the UK). And if any sort of hand-holding was ever suggested (where we gleefully share and show artifacts), is the moment all heck would break loose here.
    I agree Tom
    Kray Gelder and Tom_in_CA like this.

  7. #7
    Charter Member
    us
    I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it” ― Thomas Jefferson

    Apr 2016
    Abita Springs La....Born in New Orleans
    EQUINOX 800
    10,290
    20909 times
    Metal Detecting
    Quote Originally Posted by Kray Gelder View Post
    Interesting. I respect the field of archeology, and have many books written by these professionals. Much knowledge to be gained. On the other hand, I bristle at some of these academics' attitude that an object exists only to be left in the ground for them to find, catalog, label, and store in some university basement, never to be seen or enjoyed again.
    I too agree with you Kray
    Kray Gelder and Tom_in_CA like this.

  8. #8
    Charter Member
    us
    Oct 2014
    Massachusetts
    Garrett: AT Pro, AT Gold & Infinium; Minelab: Explorer SE, II & X-terra 705; Tesoro: Tejon & Outlaw; White's: V3i & DFX
    23,677
    23301 times
    Relic Hunting
    Banner Finds (2)
    Thank you for sharing!
    Truth1253 likes this.

  9. #9

    Jul 2014
    103
    98 times
    I believe that there is plenty of room for both groups. Like most things, extreme positions usually make for unproductive conflict. Truly historically significant artifacts do not necessarily have significant monetary value, and conversely very monetarily valuable finds frequently have absolutely no archeological value. Mutual respect or at least tolerance of both sides and cooperation makes sense to me.
    Truth1253 likes this.

  10. #10

    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
    Explorer II, Compass 77b, Tesoro shadow X2
    13,667
    10020 times
    Banner Finds (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandancer View Post
    ...., extreme positions usually make for unproductive conflict.....
    "Extreme positions" ? When it comes to archaeological mindset, I agree that some archies could care-less about md'rs. Ie.: So long as the MD'r is not snooping around the hole they are in the middle of digging, or as long as they are not snooping around obvious historic sensitive monuments.

    But that is not that the "archaeological mindset" isn't "extreme". The archaeological mindset, in each case, has remained exactly the same. The only thing that "extreme" vs "not extreme", is the archie himself. Ie.: that "non-extreme" archie simply isn't employing his own training. Ie.: He doesn't care PERSONALLY. Not that the underlying doctorine itself has changed.

    In each case, the archaeological mindset/training is the same. One simply "cares" and the other "doesn't care". So no matter how you slice it, I would never call for a "compromise", as you suggest. Because the moment you go to look at actual doctrine and beliefs, there is utterly no middle-ground compromise. All you end up with is: Care or not care. Or : enforce or not enforce. Or See or not see.
    Truth1253 and T.C. like this.

  11. #11

    Jul 2014
    103
    98 times
    If while metal detecting I happened to find something that I considered of real significance to archeologists, law enforcement, safety officials, or the original owner, ect, I would certainly consider bringing it to the attention of the appropriate person. I personally think that playing it forward always pays off.
    Truth1253 likes this.

 

 

Remove Ads

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0