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  1. #1
    us
    Sep 2019
    Palo pinto county , TX
    Tesoro: Original Silver Sabre Bounty Hunter: Land Ranger Pro, Junior Target ID
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    Bottle cap infested site, any tips?

    I'm on my second go around with metal detecting. Fist time getting on the forums. I would say all together I've got around a year of weekends and afternoons of swinging time. My current primary machine is a Bounty Hunter LRP all stock, running disc 4 mostly with foil notched out.

    To my main question, I have found a nice site with great Sandy soil and lots of shade (both required for Texas digging this time of year) however the site is bottle cap infested, it's also can slaw and pull tab infested too. I can work around the pull tabs and cans but the bottle caps are throwing me, there are literally areas that are more caps than grass etc, and nearly every plug has a few in it. For me on the LRP when they are burried 1-6 inches deep they are ringing up in the 75-95 range, most fairly consistently, and some holding the range withing 2-3 numbers on the ID. This is going north to south and east to west, flipping to all metal mode still gets same results. Pin pointing them just imitates a quarter sized object.

    I know to listen for the scratchy choppy signals and the jumpy Target ID to spot them, but is there anything I'm missing on the ones that are ringing up so perfect? Any thing I can do to cut them out or distingish easier? Or am I just going to have to pay my dues and dig the caps lol.
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    Apr 2016
    South Western PA
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    Thatís a tuff site. For me to work that site it would have to have some serious history with the potential for significant finds. A silver quarter or dime will give the same VDI as some bottle caps, but the sound is cleaner, sweeter sounding and very consistent when swinging all directions. A bottle cap will often either sound too good or too loud, and or show some iron VDI from certain directions. These are really difficult nuances in the signals. Good luck.
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    Travis Mitchell

    Feb 2016
    Elizabethtown, IN
    XP Deus ORX, MX5, V3i, Equinox, Tesoro Vaq, F22
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    I hunt a somewhat similar ball diamond year round and used to hunt it with a Tesoro and a Fishers machine and I couldn't tell a bottle cap from a quarter. Some guys swear they can with a Tesoro but I couldnt hear the tone difference. With the Equinox I could if I switched to a higher freq because the VDI would jump and I could tell easily on the Whites V3i with the polar plot. (*The V3i is a heavy machine though)

    The best machine I am now using is the XP Deus (ORX) and it is very good with bottle caps. As you wiggle the coil back you will hear a iron grunt 90% of the time. (vertical, Bent, or rusty caps can still fool you)
    I may be crazy but I actually think I can hear the hole in the pull tabs it is that good.
    Having said that I usually dig em anyway (If you carry a screwdriver and a pinpointer you will save a ton of time) I dug a few dollars in clad and cleaned out about a 75ft section this weekend.
    The big item on the left turns out is a broken 1961 Corvette antenna
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  4. #4
    us
    Sep 2019
    Palo pinto county , TX
    Tesoro: Original Silver Sabre Bounty Hunter: Land Ranger Pro, Junior Target ID
    14
    58 times
    Metal Detecting
    I have no history with the site other than knowing it pre dates 1965 and is off the beaten path for most detectorists. I may spend a few days doing sample areas and clean them out, see if there are any good finds. I do have a pin pointer and screw driver with me when I hunt
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    Sep 2018
    Rhode Island
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    Quote Originally Posted by eman1000 View Post
    I hunt a somewhat similar ball diamond year round and used to hunt it with a Tesoro and a Fishers machine and I couldn't tell a bottle cap from a quarter. Some guys swear they can with a Tesoro but I couldnt hear the tone difference. With the Equinox I could if I switched to a higher freq because the VDI would jump and I could tell easily on the Whites V3i with the polar plot. (*The V3i is a heavy machine though)

    The best machine I am now using is the XP Deus (ORX) and it is very good with bottle caps. As you wiggle the coil back you will hear a iron grunt 90% of the time. (vertical, Bent, or rusty caps can still fool you)
    I may be crazy but I actually think I can hear the hole in the pull tabs it is that good.
    Having said that I usually dig em anyway (If you carry a screwdriver and a pinpointer you will save a ton of time) I dug a few dollars in clad and cleaned out about a 75ft section this weekend.
    The big item on the left turns out is a broken 1961 Corvette antenna
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    Agree! Deus is very good at distinguishing bottle caps. Why i still dig so many.. who knows!

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    Tommy

    Dec 2015
    Ann Arbor
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    Alot of times your vdi will vary by 5 or 6 numbers on a bottle cap theres really no way to totally get around them unless you discriminate them out. I hate those caps here in Michigan the pull tab is our state flower.
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    May 2011
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    i would get a screen or classifier and just keep throwing the shovel load at a time.then after 20 shovel load look to see what you got.then full the 20 holes back up and start over.
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    Coin Rescue Tech

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    Northern O-H-I-O
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    Sometimes you just need to dig em up so you can see if they are masking coins.
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  9. #9
    us
    Sep 2019
    Palo pinto county , TX
    Tesoro: Original Silver Sabre Bounty Hunter: Land Ranger Pro, Junior Target ID
    14
    58 times
    Metal Detecting
    I'm not sure if I'm willing to dedicate myself to that with this site yet. So far the best thing I've gotten is a usable fishing lure, haven't even pulled any clad out.
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    Apr 2007
    Missouri
    AT Garrett Max
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    Every now and then I will find and work a junky area, It can be intense, considering displaying a board of rare pop tabs.
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  11. #11
    us
    May 2018
    Maryland
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    I use older tech machines, so my advice may be less applicable to the newest machines. I've had sites where there were so many targets under the coil that I finally broke down and tried a 4" coil. When I did that at my trashiest site, I started to pull Barber dimes. I still dug the old gold foil Heinz 57 packets, but the pinpointing was much easier. And I once pulled 7 or 8 Barber dimes from there in a day. That day convinced me to go to a smaller coil when trash is high.
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    Bob

    Jan 2018
    Central Massachusetts
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    I hunt in a similar area, my nemesis is aluminum can tops from the 50’ and 60’s, but mine are usually less than 4” and usually come up between 19-23 on the Nox but I get a “twang” before and after the signal, same goes for bottle caps so my advice would be to listen to your signals closely and maybe get a smaller coil. Good luck!!
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    Only boaring people get board

    Nov 2018
    The Thumb
    Mine Lab Equinox 800, Mine Lab Pro Find 35, Garrett ATpro, Garrett Pro Pointer 2, Whites ID5 Classic
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    In an area like that I would only dig the high tones, copper penny and above...
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    George

    Jun 2019
    Ak,Tn
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    There are some strong round magnets with holes in them. You can stick these on rake tines and systematically rake an area you have marked out. Will make the area much better..
    Rake all directions then detect the same way..... Good luck...
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  15. #15
    us
    Sep 2019
    Palo pinto county , TX
    Tesoro: Original Silver Sabre Bounty Hunter: Land Ranger Pro, Junior Target ID
    14
    58 times
    Metal Detecting
    I like the rake advise, also my 5 inch coil for my tesoro original silver Sabre just arrived today. Going to try running that detector with the disc maxed and see if it cuts the caps.
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