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    Quote Originally Posted by az46 View Post
    I have a class ring that I found and can't seem to find the guy.I even called the cops in hopes of some help(first time in my life) no help.Very frustrated!It even has his full name engraved on the inside.Anyone no what I'm doing wrong?

    Thanks!
    I'll bet if you post good photos of the ring here and list the inscribed name, you would have a whole bunch of forum members rushing to be the first one to find something for you! I'd be one of them....... There are a lot of class rings that only have initials for the school name, but this forum reaches many places!
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    I respectfully disagree with the assumption that those of us who do not return class rings are motivated only by "the almighty dollar" to affect our decision to not return a long lost ring. I have class rings going back to the 1940's. I won't return them. I saw a friend arrested when he arranged to return a class ring he found at a fairgrounds. When he showed up at the woman's home at the arranged time, he was arrested and charged with theft. He was acquitted in court but had to spend more money than you spent on your metal detectors to defend himself from a false charge.

    I have returned many pocketbooks, purses, wallets, and many other things when the owner could be identified, even tools lost on the highway and inscribed with the owner's name. But I resent the way you frame the argument in favor of returning rings as one of greed vs being a "good person". It is not that simple. I owe nobody an apology for protecting myself from false arrest by corrupt cops and insurance scams by property owners. And I sleep very fine at night, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCDAMEEK View Post

    "There are those who only see dollar signs when they find someone's lost treasures. Even in those instances where there are easy ways, or not so easy ways, to track down the person who lost the item. If those detectorists could understand that the heartfelt smile, excitement, and gratitude from a person who lost something dear to them, easily trumps the almighty dollar sign (no political pun intended), they would see a little bit nicer world around them." And, possibly, just maybe, would change the way they would handle a similar thing.
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    Well about 90% of our finds is something someone lost. So for me to waste my time trying to find the owner of a lost item .. That is not my job it is there job not to be so careless ...So my self i do not have the time to go looking for people that lost a item.In my 40 + years of hunting i never looked for the owner of a item and never will.. I feel that if you want to hunt someone down i do not care so... I do not like being told i should hunt someone down and it is what it is..It is like if i like something you should like it also and if i do not like something you should not like it .. That is the way a lot of people think. Treasure hunters code " FINDERS KEEPERS LOSER WEEPERS"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon View Post
    I respectfully disagree with the assumption that those of us who do not return class rings are motivated only by "the almighty dollar" to affect our decision to not return a long lost ring. I have class rings going back to the 1940's. I won't return them. I saw a friend arrested when he arranged to return a class ring he found at a fairgrounds. When he showed up at the woman's home at the arranged time, he was arrested and charged with theft. He was acquitted in court but had to spend more money than you spent on your metal detectors to defend himself from a false charge.

    I have returned many pocketbooks, purses, wallets, and many other things when the owner could be identified, even tools lost on the highway and inscribed with the owner's name. But I resent the way you frame the argument in favor of returning rings as one of greed vs being a "good person". It is not that simple. I owe nobody an apology for protecting myself from false arrest by corrupt cops and insurance scams by property owners. And I sleep very fine at night, thank you.
    Point taken with possibly poor wording of 'almighty dollar'.
    You make me curious though on why found purses, wallets, and other things, make you feel safe to return, but an engraved ring scares the B'Jesus out of you. But you are correct. There is nothing compelling anyone to return something found. Just the individuals personal beliefs.

    Peace, and happy digging...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCDAMEEK View Post
    Point taken with possibly poor wording of 'almighty dollar'.
    You make me curious though on why found purses, wallets, and other things, make you feel safe to return, but an engraved ring scares the B'Jesus out of you. But you are correct. There is nothing compelling anyone to return something found. Just the individuals personal beliefs.

    Peace, and happy digging...
    That is a fair point. I'm sure seeing my friend arrested has a lot to do with my attitude. I have never looked at a found ring the same way and he hasn't either! In his case, he stopped hunting places where a modern ring was more likely to be found and concentrated on CW sites. He has 5 gallon buckets full of bullets. They can't be moved.

    I'm not 100% comfortable returning wallets, pocketbooks etc - because there is always a chance the owner might make an accusation that cash was removed. Most are found at parking lots and i just return them to the store. If on the road, I'll call and ask the person to pick it up. I won't arrange a pick-up at their location that could wind up being a set-up.
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    Found a ladies wallet one day when I was out of town. It had cash in it.
    Before the days of cell phones.
    When I got home I tracked her down, called her, told her I'd found her wallet.
    Sent it back to her certified mail. On my dime, actually dollars.
    She called a couple days later, not to thank me but to tell there was some money missing, threatened to call the law.
    I told her where she could stuff her wallet.
    From then on, it is finders keepers, losers weepers.
    If someone stops me and tells me they lost something, if I find it I will gladly return it.
    Otherwise, tough titty.
    It's mine.
    Guess I need to change my handle to Blackbeard.
    If it's old, I'll dig it, dive on it, detect it or sometimes when I get lucky just bend over and pick it up.

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    Deep1, Thanks for posting that extortion attempt. It is exactly my fear when returning wallets, purses, etc. Since most of the ones I've found were in shopping carts, I've returned them to the store's lost & found. For those found in the road, having fallen off a car, I've returned them with great trepidation and holding my breath. Too easy to arrest and convict someone on a false charge to take much risk just to feel good about doing something kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon View Post
    Deep1, Thanks for posting that extortion attempt. It is exactly my fear when returning wallets, purses, etc. Since most of the ones I've found were in shopping carts, I've returned them to the store's lost & found. For those found in the road, having fallen off a car, I've returned them with great trepidation and holding my breath. Too easy to arrest and convict someone on a false charge to take much risk just to feel good about doing something kind.
    I've never found a class ring or other personalized piece of jewelry but in the later 80s I found a ladies wallet on the road. Opening it up revealed no cash but it did contain a drivers licence. It was a young lady that according to the birth date had turned 21 the day before.

    I showed it to a younger friend of mine who lived a few miles from where I had found it. He knew the girl and said she was the type to claim that I had kept the money from it. So I didn't try getting ahold of her, I simply went to the local post office and dropped it in the outside letter drop off box. Hope she got her license back.
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    I made one class ring return in about '84. Met the guy at my front door and held it out in my hand. He grabbed it out of my hand, said "I thought I lost it!" and gone he was with no thanks whatsoever. Found another class ring here a couple years ago, found the guy and set up a meeting "Half way". Drove up with Indian Steve to meet him, waited two hours and he never showed. Gave him credit for "life happens" and called him & left a message - with no return call.

    It's not precious metals, and it's still in my finds box.....
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    Yes finding things and then finding the owner.. Can be big pain pain in the rear but if you want to do that and then pat your self on the back go to it.. But do not tell me what i should do with my finds.
    ".. Let no one know what , when , or where ..'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keppy View Post
    Yes finding things and then finding the owner.. Can be big pain pain in the rear but if you want to do that and then pat your self on the back go to it.. But do not tell me what i should do with my finds.
    Yes, You have made your position CRYSTAL clear.
    Just so I make myself CRYSTAL CLEAR. NO WHERE in my original, or following posts, have I once tried to "TELL" anyone what they should do with their finds. And if my beliefs are different than yours, that, is the wonderment of human life.
    Doing what I believe is the right thing to do, I by no means consider "patting myself on the back". It means what it is, that my beliefs are that it is the right thing to do, especially so when locating the "careless" loser is pretty simple.
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    I guess folks get into this hobby for different reasons. Heck, some even do this for a living. I've personally have had more negative responses from the owners of returned items than positive ones. Of course there was no obligation on my part to return anything than there was from the owner to thank me for the return. Regardless, I know I would like to have anything I may have lost returned to me and will still go out of my way to make an "effort" to return things. I guess we all have a line where that "effort" is crossed and we spend more time looking for the owners than actually out there hunting. This is starting to remind me of my Aristotle classes in college. I'm out!
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    Some years back now, Indian Steve received a call to find an engagement ring. Steve found it! That pretty gal was almost at tears!

    I'd do it again and again forever regardless of the idiots who do not appreciate what we try to do.
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    DeepseekerADS, I appreciate your response, but PLEASE at least in this thread that I have started, could you PLEASE remove the implication that others that don't feel the same way as we do, are "i____s". I do not wish this thread to turn offensive, and that is offensive to many.

    Please, and Thank You
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    Huh! What the heck?

    All I ever try to be is truthful,

    And as friend to everyone - I've no hates in my life at 70. And in the end, goodness will prevail
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