Please parden me if this question has already been answered but...I live in Colorado and I want to know if I can use a metal detector in the National Forests without getting into trouble. Do I need any kind of a permit? License? Like I said |I'm trying to avoid trouble. Thanks.
Both answers were of NO value or HELP. Look either share your wealth of knowledge or keep quiet. A forum is a place to HELP new comers not treat them like dirt.
You need to relax there yourself dude. Personally I see no one "treating you like dirt". After your last reply. I don't even know why i'm helping you.But here goes anyway.As for your question-
The following is from a post in a different forum:
In general, it is not illegal to use metal detectors on the National
Forest, though it can be either pointless or frustrating depending on what
you are after. About all that you are allowed to take are modern artifacts
that you didn't have to dig for. Anything historic is off limits (you can
pick it up and look at but you can't dig it up or take it home). Nowadays,
that means anything left out there prior to 1957.
These are the specific laws and regulations relating to this:
USDA Forest Service Manual Direction (draft); FSM 2364.22: Metal detectors
may be used on National Forest System lands in areas that do not contain or
would not reasonably be expected to contain archaeological or historical
resources, such as developed campground and picnic areas. Metal detectors
must be used for lawful purposes and not violate ARPA or 36 CFR 261.9. Any
act with a metal detector that violates these or any other laws or
regulations is prosecutable. Normally, developed campgrounds, swimming
beaches, and other developed recreation sites are open to metal detecting
unless there are heritage resources present. In such cases, Forest
Supervisors are authorized to close these sites by posting notices in such
sites.
ARPA (Archaeological Resources Protection Act), 16 U.S.C. 470cc: "No person
may excavate, remove, damage, or otherwise alter or deface or attempt to
excavate, remove, damage or otherwise alter or deface any archaeological
resources located on public lands or Indian lands unless such activity is
pursuant to a permit. . ." ARPA applies only to archaeological features and
artifacts that are over 100 years old; This does not imply that anything
less than 100 years old is fair game; other laws and regulations also
apply.
Code of Federal Regulations, 36 CFR 261.9: "The following are prohibited:
(g) digging in, excavating, disturbing, injuring, destroying, or in any way
damaging any prehistoric, historic, or archaeological resources, structure,
site, artifact, or property. (h) Removing any prehistoric, historic, or
archaeological resources, structure, site, artifact, property." 36 CFR
261.9 covers the gap left by ARPA regarding historic sites and artifacts
since it has no specific age limitation to define historic. The standard
for such a consideration in most other Federal agency regulations is 50
years.
J. Scott Wood
Forest Arcaheologist/Heritage Program Manager
Check with the local Forest Service office having jurisdiction for their interpretation of the regs.
By the way- APOLOGY ACCEPTED!
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it." - Henry Ford "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Orwell
Thank you for your answer. I don't know you but at least you were honest and kind enough to answer my question. Why the others didn't answer my question to begin with is beyond my understanding. I figured that they knew what they were talking about. It appears that they didn't.
As for me, I am tired of getting armchair quarter back answers for serious questions from twisted individuals who appear to enjoy hearing themselves talk/write a no-answer.
As for me, you will no longer hear from me as I am leaving this forum.
As for me, I am tired of getting armchair quarter back answers for serious questions from twisted individuals who appear to enjoy hearing themselves talk/write a no-answer.
As for me, you will no longer hear from me as I am leaving this forum.
I don't see how you could/would enjoy ,metal detecting with np patience. You've only asked 2 questions on this forum and both were answered. It's sad that you feel the need to leave this forum. This is the best metal detecting forum on the web,by far. There are many,many good people here willing to help and share their knowlege with new members. I wish you would stick around but that's up to you. Have a nice day and happy hunting.
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it." - Henry Ford "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Orwell
Hi Timmer, diggummup is right. Single phrase answers are a forum way of getting the reader to think through to a conclusion, they are steering you to. There is no disrespect in that. Like when I say "do you want the technical answer or the realistic one?", that is a question for you, the poster, to answer, to that we, the answerers, can know where to steer the answer. Example: Someone says "what detector is best?" Another person says "depends, where are you going to hunt?". Same thing.
Both answers were of NO value or HELP. Look either share your wealth of knowledge or keep quiet. A forum is a place to HELP new comers not treat them like dirt.
Don't know who whizzed in your Wheaties bud, but trust me, I'll not offer you any more help. The link I posted has the States Regulations on it. Sorry if you expected me to read them to you.
Smitty, your link, as you say, has state's info on it. Timmer's question was about Fed. land. But still, the reader merely has to know that that answer innocently doesn't apply, not that someone's "treating them like dirt".
don't let the door hit you in the ... I'm sure you guys try to be friendly,but..I'll say it 4u
That guy was a little uptight, too bad...as this has to be the friendliest site on md.
don't get all mad at me for posting pic..shouldn't bring that attitude here :P
Thank you for your answer. I don't know you but at least you were honest and kind enough to answer my question. Why the others didn't answer my question to begin with is beyond my understanding. I figured that they knew what they were talking about. It appears that they didn't.
As for me, I am tired of getting armchair quarter back answers for serious questions from twisted individuals who appear to enjoy hearing themselves talk/write a no-answer.
As for me, you will no longer hear from me as I am leaving this forum.
Then dont ask anymore questions and good riddance!!
From my experience visiting different forums dealing with my hobby interest there are always a few guys like this. Actually two types.
The guy that asks a question and then gets POed when he doesnt get a explicit answer or the one he wanted and then the know it all who likes to drive the previous guy nuts with snide answers. To be honest I see little of that go on in any of the MD forums.
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I'm sure you guys try to be friendly,but..I'll say it 4u
