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    us
    Jan 2020
    Eastern WA
    Nokta Makro Simplex+, Bounty Hunter Tracker IV
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    Upgrading from Bounty Hunter Tracker IV, but couldnít pull the trigger.

    So, Iíve got about 24 hours in with the Tracker IV and I had originally told myself I had a limit of $400 so decided to get the Garrett ACE 400. Added to cart and read a negative review and chickened out.

    My question is: if Iím getting about 4 inches for coin targets with the Tracker IV, how much more depth could I reasonably expect to get from an ACE 250? 350? 400? Iím willing to spend the money if Iím assured to get at least 8 inches, but Iíd rather spend around $300. Iíve found that I do alright with tones, but a visual ID might be nice. However, a bunch of extra features arenít super important to me.

    Would you recommend a different detector altogether in the $250-$400 price range? Iíd like to make a purchase today, so any input that isnít ďjust save up and get an AT ProĒ would be appreciated.

  2. #2
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    Sir Digs Alot

    Mar 2013
    Alma Arkansas
    Minelab Equinox 800, Garrett AT Pro, Whites Classic ID, Mikronta 4003
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    663 times
    Relic Hunting
    Save up and get an equinox 800. Lol but in all honesty I'd go Garrett anyday over bounty hunter.

  3. #3
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    herman

    Mar 2013
    taylorville,IL
    minelab equinox minelab e trac
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    Notka Makro Simplex +

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    us
    May 2010
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    The Notka Makro Simplex is hard to beat for the money. It is a waterproof detector and has some nice features. It runs $254 or $339 depending on if you want wireless headphones.

    Also, the Minelab Vanquish are also a good choice and is a multi-frequency detector. It isn't waterproof so it depends on your needs.

    The Garrett Ace series detectors are good detectors but have been out for a while and there are better choices for the money. They really need to update their Ace line. It appears Garrett has something new in the makings and should be released soon so if you are interested in a Garrett detector, it may be worth waiting.
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  5. #5
    us
    Jan 2020
    Eastern WA
    Nokta Makro Simplex+, Bounty Hunter Tracker IV
    19
    62 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by hbrown66 View Post
    Notka Makro Simplex +
    I've been curious about this brand. Great. Now I have more research to do haha. Thank you for your input.
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  6. #6

    Aug 2015
    Nokta Impact, Nokta Makro Simplex +, Makro Racer 2, Garrett Ace 350
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    Nokta Makro Simplex + at that price cannot be beat.
    Contact a dealer for best pricing.

  7. #7

    Feb 2020
    Colorado
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    I own the Equinox and the Vanquish. I am very familiar with most of the Nokta Makro and Garrett, Whites and First Texas detectors too having owned and used many of them. If you have moderate mineralization in you soil near Spokane where you hunt, the Equinox and Vanquish may give you better numerical target ID and tone accuracy. Their Multi IQ simultaneous multi frequency operation really does help with penetrating deeper in moderate to high mineralization than most single frequency VLF detectors. They are the only detectors that I have used that can accurately identify targets past 5 to 6" in my Colorado dirt. You can get a Vanquish 440 for less than $300 and it operates much better than the typical entry level detector. The 540 is a little higher but still a great option if you can afford it.

    Jeff

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    us
    Feb 2020
    NORTH STONINGTON, CT
    XP ORX, EQUINOX 800.
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    Metal Detecting
    If you want the best bang for your buck in my opinion the best deal is the Simplex the fact that it is waterproof alone makes it worth it. I have handled one and used one for a minute but do not own one. I have heard good things about it and it is well equip for the price.

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    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2013
    Southern California
    Equinox 800 / XP Deus
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    8738 times
    With the Simplex, if youíre beach hunting the ďBeach ModeĒ with its single tone may not be the best choice as every target sounds the same. IMHO


    ďStrive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.Ē
    Ė Albert Einstein

  10. #10
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    Can You Dig It?

    Aug 2017
    Milwaukee WI
    - Garett ACE 250 - Garett AT Pinpointer
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    Ive neen using an ACE 250 for 3 years now. Can definatly pick stuff up at 6 to 8 inches. I am looking to upgrade as I have some water spots I'd like to hit. Good machine but there are better ones for the money. Dont be hasty with your choice and good luck out there.
    My METAL DETECTOR is actually a TIME MACHINE

  11. #11
    us
    Mar 2013
    Southern Louisiana
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    All Hidden Historical Items
    I've been using an Ace 250, upgraded from a Bounty Hunter, since 2014. Recently, I upgraded the coil to the 11 inch Double D and I am finding targets really, really deep. Some as much as 12 to 14 inches.

    I live on 4 acres in an area that was settled in the late 1700's. It has picked up 7 very tiny pewter with gilt buttons pretty deep. Sometime in the next year I am going to invest in the Equinox 600, but many, many hours on the Ace have taught me to listen to my machine and know my ground. I love the 250.

  12. #12
    us
    Apr 2014
    NJ
    Whites Spectra V3i, Whites MX5, Whites BH 300, Whites MX Sport, Tek Europro, Tesoro Compadre, Makro Multi Kruzer .......... No longer own....... Etrac, CTX3030, G2, Fisher F4 Tesoro Bandido
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABALONGOGGLES View Post
    So, Iíve got about 24 hours in with the Tracker IV and I had originally told myself I had a limit of $400 so decided to get the Garrett ACE 400. Added to cart and read a negative review and chickened out.

    My question is: if Iím getting about 4 inches for coin targets with the Tracker IV, how much more depth could I reasonably expect to get from an ACE 250? 350? 400? Iím willing to spend the money if Iím assured to get at least 8 inches, but Iíd rather spend around $300. Iíve found that I do alright with tones, but a visual ID might be nice. However, a bunch of extra features arenít super important to me.

    Would you recommend a different detector altogether in the $250-$400 price range? Iíd like to make a purchase today, so any input that isnít ďjust save up and get an AT ProĒ would be appreciated.
    There are a number of machines (in your stated price range) that can hit coins at 8 inches - providing the soil conditions aren't too harsh. I have no experience with the Tracker IV, but it could be that your soil is limiting the machine's ability to detect coin sized objects deeper than 4 inches. If your soil is tough it will be a factor no matter what machine you end up using.

    Coil size will play a role as well.

    The deepest coin I've ever dug was a quarter at a legitimate 12 inches, but that was in fairly sandy soil that was moist (it had rained the day prior). Most of my coin finds have been dug at 6 inches or less.

    You might want to consider a used machine. If your mind is set on an AT Pro, I would think that you can find a good condition used AT Pro for $400 if you give yourself some time.

    Other potential machines (used and new) not yet mentioned:

    Tesoro Vaquero - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions
    Tesoro Cibola - should hit 8 inches in most soil conditions
    Tek Patriot - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (I believe it sells for $400 brand new)
    Makro Kruzer - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (shopping around might find a good used one for $400)
    Nokta Makro Racer 2 - should hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (likely to find one used for $400 or a bit less)
    Whites MX Sport - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (might find a good used one for $400)
    Whites MX 7 - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (might find a good used one for $400)
    Whites MX All Pro - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (might find a good used one for $400)
    Tek Omega 8500 - will hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (new for $400)
    Tek Eurotek Pro - should hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (new for $250)
    Fisher F75 - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (should be able to find a used one for $400 or a bit less)
    Tek T2 - will easily hit 8 inches in most soil conditions (should be able to find a used one for $400 or less)

    I'm sure there are a number of machines that I've overlooked.

    Good luck with your hunt for a new machine.
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  13. #13
    us
    Feb 2014
    Ohio and Florida
    CTX3030 w 11" and 17" DD coils, Minelab Excalibur II w 10" coil, Equinox 800 w 11" and 15" coils, Troy Shadow x2 w 7" coil, Pro Find 35 Pointer Vibra-Tector 730 w 4" coil
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    DON'T BUY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW! At 24 hrs w a machine, any machine, you don't have any experience to speak of and even less knowledge of metal detecting. Stick w the Tracker IV until you have 200 hrs on the machine and understand all the features and what are the true limitations given your area/soil/hunting conditions. Like golf clubs, we're always looking for something more, something new. But until you get some real hrs of hunting under your belt, just learn and understand the machine you have. Sure a new machine sounds good but do your research and do not rely on others to tell you the best machine for you for your money. Read, read and do more reading on this site and others. If you jump in and buy another metal detector before you really know what your dealing and what YOU really need you will ultimately be disappointed.
    Metal Detecting Goal in Life is to Find Wife a 2ct Diamond Ring (so she'll be quiet about all my metal detecting).

  14. #14
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    Don

    Feb 2016
    Missouri
    macro racer 2, whites mx5, trx pinpointer
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    1072 times
    Metal Detecting
    Quote Originally Posted by LawrencetheMDer View Post
    DON'T BUY ANYTHING RIGHT NOW! At 24 hrs w a machine, any machine, you don't have any experience to speak of and even less knowledge of metal detecting. Stick w the Tracker IV until you have 200 hrs on the machine and understand all the features and what are the true limitations given your area/soil/hunting conditions. Like golf clubs, we're always looking for something more, something new. But until you get some real hrs of hunting under your belt, just learn and understand the machine you have. Sure a new machine sounds good but do your research and do not rely on others to tell you the best machine for you for your money. Read, read and do more reading on this site and others. If you jump in and buy another metal detector before you really know what your dealing and what YOU really need you will ultimately be disappointed.
    Best advice yet.
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  15. #15
    us
    Dec 2017
    VA.
    Nautilus, MXT & XP
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    Agreed the best machine is the one you know how to use.
    Learn your machine and learn to trust it.
    Dig it all..
    Best of luck and happy digging.
    villival and Dancer like this.

 

 
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