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    Apex vs Nox 800?

    Which is better all around?

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    We won't know until the Apex has actually been used out in the field for a while, so we have something to compare it to in the real world of detecting.
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    How about Garrett vs. Whites? I always view Whites as more durable, trustworthy, and longer-lasting. Garrett detectors always struck me as one step up from the Big 5 special Bounty Hunter detectors. Am I mistaken?
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    Yes, you are.
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    Helpful and informative. Dbag

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    I think the Apex is the new lower end of the Garrett line. They were hinting that there was more to come later in the year....I interpreted that as a multi frequency AT pro (mid range) more aimed at the Equinox equivilant.
    For Example I understand the Apex has no update facility. I think the Apex is more aimed at the Vanquish equivilant ( with the bonus of waterproof) and the Simplex equivilant ( bonus of multi frequency).
    Only time will tell. I'm sure there are testers out there that would know but are still under non disclosure agreements?
    I love the idea of the Viper coil on the Apex. Its perfectly proportioned for my style of hunting.
    I did write back (in the feedback questionaire) to Garrett and suggest Cell phone style rubber covers / screen protectors. Clip on for instant cammo etc.
    So yeah,
    step 1 - wait for release of Apex (maybe a hiccup or two to resolve like Equinox shaft)

    Step two - wait for multi AT pro announcement

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    Don't worry. There will be a video posted soon from North Carolina that completely pooh-poohs the Apex over the Nox and of course, commenting will be disabled.
    Watch for Motorcycles

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    I have an AT Gold I really like. Also have an XP Deus. Really the AT Gold is a lot easier to use, easier to find a gold ring. I won a metal detecting contest with it a couple years ago. I know people have said bad things about it. I don't understand unless they secretly work for another manufacturer. I guess it's because Garrett sells more detectors. Can you believe they sold over a million ACE detectors?

    Not trying to put down the Nox but when I was shopping I found several things I did not like about it. The big coil was probably the worst. Made it hard to work in trash and was heavy and not well balanced. Weight might be the most important thing about a detector. Have to admit I love to swing the Deus. (BTW, the full Deus is on sale with a pinpointer for just over $1000.) And I didn't like how the VDI scale was so short. Also you can read a lot of people had a hard time learning it.

    From everything I can see the APEX is a really nice detector. If I was in the market I would get one. No detector is perfect. Probably what I don't like is the VDI scale can only be notched out in groups of five. The coil is a little different looking kinda longer than I would have made it.
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    First, The new Garrett machine is an "Entry Level" machine, meant to compete with the Minelab Vanquish 540, and other entry level multi-freq machines. The Equinox 800 is not and entry level machine - it is an "Intermediate" machine, that would eat the Apex's lunch. Apples and Oranges.

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    Yeah, bigger heavier coil goes deeper in clean ground. Depth is not everything. Nowadays many places are trashy, and that's where the gold is still sitting. My guess the APEX will outperform there.
    Love transcends this world we live in to Heaven.
    I'll leave it to you to figure out where the opposite goes.

    If your heart is in it you will find a thousand ways to achieve your goal.
    If your heart is not in it you will find a thousand excuses.

    Ouija Board and map dowsing , one and the same. Just tape a map onto the Ouija Board and you have map dowsing.
    Works great if you like wild goose chases and snipe hunts!

    L-rods are obsolete.

    May you never take one single breath for granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    First, The new Garrett machine is an "Entry Level" machine, meant to compete with the Minelab Vanquish 540, and other entry level multi-freq machines. The Equinox 800 is not and entry level machine - it is an "Intermediate" machine, that would eat the Apex's lunch. Apples and Oranges.
    I guess I just think of entry level machines as being at a lower price point. Roughly $600 isn’t peanuts especially for someone new to the hobby who isn’t sure if they’ll enjoy it or not. I think of the $100-200 Bounty Hunter machines as entry level but maybe those are more designed for kids.

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    I won't even get started on whose detector or which brand is best blah, blah, blah. What I will say from actual experience is that even the Vanquish 340 has more accurate numerical target ID on coin sized targets at 6" depth or more in salt beach sand, mild dirt, moderately mineralized dirt and especially highly mineralized dirt that is not full of trash than most of the USA made single frequency VLF detectors that I have owned or used and many of them list for over $600 and are way more than the Vanquish 340 at $199. The Vanquish 340 (not the much more feature rich 540 which is even better) can give my Equinox a good tussle for depth and deep target ID accuracy with similar settings and coils if there is not too much aluminum or iron trash to deal with. If there is plenty of trash, the Nox wins/no contest due to target masking which is a Vanquish weak point but, it is a totally entry level detector after all.

    If the simultaneous multi frequency Garrett Apex is equally as good as the Vanquish series for target ID accuracy on deeper targets it promises to be quite a detector for the money with all of its good, modern features. Better than the Equinox 600 feature wise (not even close compared to the 800)........ on paper the Apex is not an intermediate level detector and cannot compete with the Nox 600 much less the 800 features. How it detects is what really matters and we will know the answer to that question sometime in September hopefully when some very experienced Equinox owners get their hands on an Apex in the field and give it an honest assessment.

    Jeff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
    Ill bet mines bigger then yours....
    You must have the 15
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    People I know have already put in pre-orders for the Apex, even tho they already have the Nox, I will wait, I like my Nox and Orx, both are equal, but I do wish the Orx and deus had a depth meter, this time of the year the ground is like concrete, if the target is over 3-4 inches, I usually pass (pennies)

 

 
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