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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    yep low and slow, I scrub the ground.

    I have found that with some garretts you can't do that with. Now my dad on the other end, I gotta find a way to get it across to him that you do not hold it a foot off the ground, especially when I am digging things at 12" as it is. He wonders why he can't find stuff and I follow behind him finding things.
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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    This should be set up as a poll. I agree!

    Use a coil cover and scrub that soil!
    We all know there's no such thing as a "hunted out" location. Let's stop using that phrase to describe a park out of which you just dug a pile of coins! Obviously that particular place wasn't "hunted out", right?

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    I mean honestly who wants to dig deeper than six inches ?
    I think the opposite. Who wants to dig something only 6" deep? It's generally modern and not old enough to make me happy.

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    I mean honestly who wants to dig deeper than six inches ?
    I think the opposite. Who wants to dig something only 6" deep? It's generally modern and not old enough to make me happy.
    I don't know where You're diggin, but where I dig (the woods, yards, plowed fields...just about everywhere except the pastures) old finds ARE consistently in the less-than 6-inch range.


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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    I mean honestly who wants to dig deeper than six inches ?
    I think the opposite. Who wants to dig something only 6" deep? It's generally modern and not old enough to make me happy.
    I don't know where You're diggin, but where I dig (the woods, yards, plowed fields...just about everywhere except the pastures) old finds ARE consistently in the less-than 6-inch range.


    -Buckles
    Just to your north. Indiana. The vast majority of old coins that I find are 6" or deeper. Yes, I do find quite a few 4" deep silver silver, wheats, indians, etc. But MOST are deep. There are very few targets left in the range of 6" or shallower. They have all been found.

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    I mean honestly who wants to dig deeper than six inches ?
    I think the opposite. Who wants to dig something only 6" deep? It's generally modern and not old enough to make me happy.
    I don't know where You're diggin, but where I dig (the woods, yards, plowed fields...just about everywhere except the pastures) old finds ARE consistently in the less-than 6-inch range.


    -Buckles
    Just to your north. Indiana. The vast majority of old coins that I find are 6" or deeper. Yes, I do find quite a few 4" deep silver silver, wheats, indians, etc. But MOST are deep. There are very few targets left in the range of 6" or shallower. They have all been found.
    In the parks, maybe... 

    But then again I will Never hunt a park. 

    I must live in coin heaven here.  All my LC's, Seateds, and even a 2c piece or two this year were under 6 inches deep.

    Must've been the the '37 flood carrying away all of those pesky, shallow Silver Mercuries and floatin 'em down the O-Hi-O


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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    I mean honestly who wants to dig deeper than six inches ?
    I think the opposite. Who wants to dig something only 6" deep? It's generally modern and not old enough to make me happy.
    I don't know where You're diggin, but where I dig (the woods, yards, plowed fields...just about everywhere except the pastures) old finds ARE consistently in the less-than 6-inch range.


    -Buckles
    Just to your north. Indiana. The vast majority of old coins that I find are 6" or deeper. Yes, I do find quite a few 4" deep silver silver, wheats, indians, etc. But MOST are deep. There are very few targets left in the range of 6" or shallower. They have all been found.
    In the parks, maybe...

    But then again will Never hunt a park.

    I must live in coin heaven here. All my LC's, Seateds, and even a 2c piece or two this year were under 6 inches deep.

    Must've been the the '37 flood carrying away all of those pesky, shallow Silver Mercuries and floatin 'em down the O-Hi-O


    -Buck
    Not sure why you even responded to my post. But here goes my rebuttal...

    Yes, hunting farm fields, woods, etc. is a completely different ball game. Finding seated laying on top of the ground is something I have done in the past, and do certainly enjoy. But when it comes to coins that have actually sank, then it takes some skill in using your machine and not just swinging till you hear a beep. You are awesome, I bow down to you. But hunting woods and farm fields doesn't take any talents at all. Any machine can be used in them and by somebody without any great skills.

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Aren't there density issues about how deep a coin will settle. When I learned MDing some 14 years ago, the old timer who taught me said there's a limit to how deep any coin will settle, based upon it's relative density as compared to it's surrounding soil's density. A clad dime might sink deeper than say a silver dime of less density and no coin can sink of it's own weight deeper than 6 inches due to the density of even the most loamy soil being greater than that of a large coin at six inches. It's kinda like reaching neutral buoyancy in the water.
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    OK I see a fight coming I'll bail out now !
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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    Aren't there density issues about how deep a coin will settle. When I learned MDing some 14 years ago, the old timer who taught me said there's a limit to how deep any coin will settle, based upon it's relative density as compared to it's surrounding soil's density. A clad dime might sink deeper than say a silver dime of less density and no coin can sink of it's own weight deeper than 6 inches due to the density of even the most loamy soil being greater than that of a large coin at six inches. It's kinda like reaching neutral buoyancy in the water.
    MD..I think you are right on that aspect of the sinking coin. But, most parks these days have had fill dirt hauled in and that tends to put the coins deeper.

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    How would you know about the fill dirt and why would they do that ?
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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by bscofield6
    Not sure why you even responded to my post. But here goes my rebuttal...

    Yes, hunting farm fields, woods, etc. is a completely different ball game. Finding seated laying on top of the ground is something I have done in the past, and do certainly enjoy. But when it comes to coins that have actually sank, then it takes some skill in using your machine and not just swinging till you hear a beep. You are awesome, I bow down to you. But hunting woods and farm fields doesn't take any talents at all. Any machine can be used in them and by somebody without any great skills.
    I beg to differ!  Bookwork AND Legwork BOTH take skill.  (This is something that many people don't think anything about--especially if they're the type that drive down a road until they see a farmhouse that looks good and knock on the door.)  The best sites Cannot be found by simply driving down the right road and seeing an old house or park.

    Finding the site in the woods in the thick of summer--3/4 of a mile deep in the woods--and figuring out How to work out a site there does most certainly take skill.  Figuring out where the perameters of a site are takes skill.  Figuring out the orientation of the house (front/back, etc), finding the cellar hole, outhouse, and well... not to mention likely high-traffic areas to springs and roads to and from the site.  I could go on.  Hunting CW relics in the woods depends on How you swing, and how you deal with the brush, fallen trees, etc.  A lot of how one deals with the site contributes in some way to the finds--and these skills are specific to actual detector swinging technique (and they relate the most to the post above).  If you don't believe me, we can go out to a CW spot sometime and I'm more than happy to prove it to you.  You can pick the spot, or we'll go to one of mine.  

    You're right about the plowed fields--in the sense that it doesn't take a whole lot of skill to beep-dig...but it takes a good bit of searchcoil control to get around the cornstalks and in the ruts and ridges of a plowed field, and not miss anything.  Knowing how your detector will react when it is *close to* but not over-top-of a target is Essential.  And all the things that get you to that specific part of that specific field take skill.  Research, deeds, the Tract Record, GPS and old maps...  I've been a ONE detector user for 15 of the past 16 years.  To say that I know it well is an understatement.  Folks generally own too many detectors and change them too frequently in their quest for the latest "new thing."  Regardless of how much skill you say it takes to beep-dig on a plowed field, I can and have dug minieballs out of pastures at over a foot with my detector which was made in 1992.    
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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Ok, so I'll keep dragging my coil on the ground.

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Quote Originally Posted by MD Dog
    How would you know about the fill dirt and why would they do that ?
    I now have 2 sites where wheats are at 2"

    & Clad & Memorials all the way down from surface to 8"

    Don't find too many wheats there anymore.
    but when I do find them they are Shallow

    but it's obvious fill

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    Re: do you drag the MD on the ground?

    Buckle....

    I can't argue about finding a spot taking skill. That is something that I'm just not good at for a number of reasons. One is just lack of motivation. I've got a few spots lined up to check out once crops get harvested, but I can't imagine ever having the magnitude of hunting spots that you have.

    You are also probably much better suited to using your machine at an iron infested site than I am. I've hunted a number of farm fields where getting 4" depth is a stretch due to so many square nails littering the ground at all depth levels. Your machine is probably much better suited for that kind of hunting and you could probably find more targets than my machine.

    As for wooded spots... I would probably spend too much of my time untangling my probe wire and spider like coil from every stick and weed imaginable.

    I might even make a detecting trip to KY this fall to see what kind of trouble I can get myself into. A buddy has made the invite. For all I know I will get rocked down there and come home empty handed.

 

 
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