minelab safari + GOLD!

cesarnono13

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Jun 25, 2010
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So I was air testing a canadian maple leaf gold coin (1 Oz of pure gold 24K) with the safari and the VDI comes up as 36 with a really high tone, well in the silver range.... anyone else out there with a safari, e-trac or explorer that have tested 24K with there detectors? if so what tones are you guys getting, albeit they are different between the models but are they in the range that you would expect them to be in? thanks for any input.
 

Sandman

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I doubt you will find any guys that have a 24 Kt. gold coin to test to tell you this answer.
 

JohnnieWalker

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Nov 30, 2009
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We stopped by a coin store and checked these out:

1 oz 24 k 999 maple 36
1 oz 24 k 999 buffalo 36 to 37
1 oz am gold eagle 38
1/4 oz gold eagle 34
1/4 oz gold $10 indian 32

You can clearly see that the Safari VDI is based on conductivity. The thicker the object the higher the VDI.

The whole, gold-silver reading is pretty much based on standard objects.
I got the silver coins if you need those but pretty irrelevant. It's pretty unlikely you will find Gold Am Eagles or Silver bullions in the ground.
A nice thought though.
 

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cesarnono13

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Minelab Safari, Ace 250
JohnnieWalker said:
We stopped by a coin store and checked these out:

1 oz 24 k 999 maple 36
1 oz 24 k 999 buffalo 36 to 37
1 oz am gold eagle 38
1/4 oz gold eagle 34
1/4 oz gold $10 indian 32

You can clearly see that the Safari VDI is based on conductivity. The thicker the object the higher the VDI.

The whole, gold-silver reading is pretty much based on standard objects.
I got the silver coins if you need those but pretty irrelevant. It's pretty unlikely you will find Gold Am Eagles or Silver bullions in the ground.
A nice thought though.
thanks for the info! I'm sure this will make the life of new safari users a lot easier :-)
 

steelheadwill

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Greetings,
when testing my safari I got the same results, SIZE MATTERS,
a single $5 cold coin reads low 30s, a pile of them reads high 30s
 

JohnnieWalker

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Nov 30, 2009
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Minelab Safari Teknetics T2
So maybe a 39 would be a stach of maple leaf 24 k gold coins!
I guess we really do need to dig everything!
 

Iron Patch

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Your time would be better spent digging for those few minutes than testing to see where a gold coin hits on the screen. There's absolutely no possible technical strategy using a visual ID to find a rare find. It's all about the area you hunt, maybe research, digging one heck of a lot of targets, and being damn lucky! I can look at the all the guys I know around here and easily count 100 years total detecting and we have 1 gold coin between us. (and unfortuntely it wasn't me)
 

JohnnieWalker

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Minelab Safari Teknetics T2
steelheadwill said:
Greetings,
when testing my safari I got the same results, SIZE MATTERS,
a single $5 cold coin reads low 30s, a pile of them reads high 30s

Could you send me that pile so I can try them over here? ::)
 

Willee

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Iron Patch said:
There's absolutely no possible technical strategy using a visual ID to find a rare find.

Except for one ... if you are at a hunt where large gold coins and perhaps some bullion are hidden, I for one, would certainly go for those high signals and forsake all others.
Knowing where those items came up on my display beforehand would be some very good information to have.
 

Iron Patch

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Willee said:
Iron Patch said:
There's absolutely no possible technical strategy using a visual ID to find a rare find.

Except for one ... if you are at a hunt where large gold coins and perhaps some bullion are hidden, I for one, would certainly go for those high signals and forsake all others.
Knowing where those items came up on my display beforehand would be some very good information to have.


Apples and oranges. (real hunt vs planted hunt)
 

Keppy

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Iron Patch said:
Your time would be better spent digging for those few minutes than testing to see where a gold coin hits on the screen. There's absolutely no possible technical strategy using a visual ID to find a rare find. It's all about the area you hunt, maybe research, digging one heck of a lot of targets, and being damn lucky! I can look at the all the guys I know around here and easily count 100 years total detecting and we have 1 gold coin between us. (and unfortuntely it wasn't me)
Your right on there iron patch.....Every one spends two much time looking at those numbers..........I always said those numbers slow you down...
 

RiverRat3

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If I have a good signal no matter what the numbers are I dig it. I quickly learned those numbers dont really mean anything but the tones do.
 

Germanicus

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I also guide myself mostly by the tones and just use the numbers as a secondary reference point. Still, good info in this thread.
 

ChampFerguson/TN

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Sure, I go by tones too, but to stop learning because 'tones are everything' isn't a very good strategy imo.
Yes, research leads to good finds; so does experience and study. Theres a time and place for all of them.
 

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