DOES ANYONE USE TTF ON THE E-TRAC

[sonofadigger]

hey everyone i was just wondering does anyone use the two tone ferrous on the e trac and if so whats the advantages and disvantages any feedback would be great thanks

 

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[sonofadigger]

Nobody?

 

[Sooper Dave]

I use TTF more than multi-conductive mode now. The advantage is you can hear everything in the ground. When you have a discrimination pattern to knock out iron and other targets you don't want to dig, it also knocks out the good stuff beside it. The Etrac "nulls" the threshold and goes silent when you go over a discriminated target. This effect can mask a good target next to it. The TTF pattern allows you to hunt in an "all metal mode" with two tones, a low tone for iron and a high tone for non-ferrous targets, coins, tokens, silver, gold etc.. The Etrac reacts very fast to both signals even when the two are touching. I have found many old coins in the same hole as multiple nails and other iron junk, I have got silver coins with huge rust stains from nails laying on top of them in the ground, and the Etrac in TTF sniffed out the dime signal. I mainly look around old farmhouse sites that are full of iron, and TTF allows me to slowly pick out the good stuff. This mode is best used with a smaller coil for the best target separation and you need to go SLOW, SLOW, SLOW for the best results. This way of hunting takes some time to get used to. The amount of signals on a very trashy site can give you a major headache. I sometimes go between TTF and Multi-conductive modes to give me a break on a long hunt. If you are new to the Etarc, I would get familiar with all the sounds in multi-conductive mode first and then start to try TTF a little at a time. I hope this helps, I will post some pictures of some coins found with iron when I started using TTF just a few months ago. HH David

 

[AdDicted2Ag]

I use it all the time.. mainly for areas with heavy amounts of iron..

 

[Sovereignelite]

Good advice.

I use TTF more than multi-conductive mode now. The advantage is you can hear everything in the ground. When you have a discrimination pattern to knock out iron and other targets you don't want to dig, it also knocks out the good stuff beside it. The Etrac "nulls" the threshold and goes silent when you go over a discriminated target. This effect can mask a good target next to it. The TTF pattern allows you to hunt in an "all metal mode" with two tones, a low tone for iron and a high tone for non-ferrous targets, coins, tokens, silver, gold etc.. The Etrac reacts very fast to both signals even when the two are touching. I have found many old coins in the same hole as multiple nails and other iron junk, I have got silver coins with huge rust stains from nails laying on top of them in the ground, and the Etrac in TTF sniffed out the dime signal. I mainly look around old farmhouse sites that are full of iron, and TTF allows me to slowly pick out the good stuff. This mode is best used with a smaller coil for the best target separation and you need to go SLOW, SLOW, SLOW for the best results. This way of hunting takes some time to get used to. The amount of signals on a very trashy site can give you a major headache. I sometimes go between TTF and Multi-conductive modes to give me a break on a long hunt. If you are new to the Etarc, I would get familiar with all the sounds in multi-conductive mode first and then start to try TTF a little at a time. I hope this helps, I will post some pictures of some coins found with iron when I started using TTF just a few months ago. HH David
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[mnixon]

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[sonofadigger]

thanks everyone seems like its a good program to use im gonna try it as soon as the snow goes away

 

[Jason in Enid]

I have known about TTF for a long time, but I have never made myself use it. I am finally going to hit my "field of dreams" where I pulled the Morgan with TTF. That place has a lot of spots which are loaded with iron.

 

[sonofadigger]

I have known about TTF for a long time, but I have never made myself use it. I am finally going to hit my "field of dreams" where I pulled the Morgan with TTF. That place has a lot of spots which are loaded with iron.

Good luck I have a spot where I think TTF would be great only problem is I'm gonna be hunting in 5 inches of snow

 

[Jason in Enid]

Good luck I have a spot where I think TTF would be great only problem is I'm gonna be hunting in 5 inches of snow

If you do, you're way more hardcore than me! I'm a cold weather wuss.

 

[north1]

Sooper Dave

What small coil do you use on your etrac? I am in the process of picking a small coil. Hunt in the exact same conditions you do. Am leaning towards the sef 8x6 butterfly coil but am still doing some research. Another possibility is the sunray x-5 but it is $50.00 more and I hunt very large areas so a little more coverage offered by the 8x6 would be beneficial.

 

[Sooper Dave]

I have both the 8X6 SEF and the X-5 coils. The SEF is more of a mid-sized coil but still gets in between the trash. But the X-5 allows you to get closer to structures, like the foundation of an old home that is littered with nails and sniff out the keepers. You can also get closer to metal fences and post with the X-5. There are a lot of great coils for the Etrac that make it an even better machine for many conditions.

 

[Bart@Big Boys Hobbies]

Awesome pic Sooper Dave. The X-5 is an outstanding coil!

 

[Sovereignelite]

Side by side the X-5 doesn't look all that smaller than the SEF coil, I would think the SEF might give you a bit more depth and still a small size with good separation.

I have both the 8X6 SEF and the X-5 coils. The SEF is more of a mid-sized coil but still gets in between the trash. But the X-5 allows you to get closer to structures, like the foundation of an old home that is littered with nails and sniff out the keepers. You can also get closer to metal fences and post with the X-5. There are a lot of great coils for the Etrac that make it an even better machine for many conditions.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I have no trouble hitting dimes at 6 - 7 inches with the X5.

 

[rustyman9791]

This is a truly great thread. Good advise in here.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I just used the TTF mode today. I will say that it sure is different after using multi conduct for 4 years. I did pull an 1800s IH penny though. I think it will take some more practice however.

 

[Sooper Dave]

Way to go Jason. IH's are one of my favorites to find. It does take some time to get used to how it sounds vs. the multi audio mode. I also have my audio response set to long, this helps me make that blip of a singnal hold on longer. Another tip for TTF is to open up the screen. I have seen post by folks asking about running coin patterns and just opening up the bottom to see iron. The Etrac reacts to discrimination the same way even on a screw cap, so you can mask out good signals with upper screen discrimination in TTF. I set my Etrac up the way Goes4ever has on his website, by starting in relic mode. Also don't expect those perfect numbers to show on the screen. A lot of times when a good target is close to iron you will get a blend of the two signals. Hope this helps.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I set mine up in G4Es pattern also. I'm trying to learn the sounds of conductives next to iron. It seemed like most of the iron targets gave some level of high-tone falsing blips. The stronger ones I dug with mixed results. 2 were large iron objects, 2 were brass buttons with iron backs.

 

[windage]

I use TTF to "go where no detectorist has gone before" and do well. When I hear of an area that other operators refer to as the "junk yard", that's where I set the E up for TTF.
Yes, it is "chatty",
yes, it will wear you out,
yes, you will dig iron "falsies"
but YES you will pull Civil War buttons from "worked over" fields where other operators just can't, or won't sift through the iron.
And don't dismiss the stock coil due to it's 11" size, it WILL do you proud.