My Safari and its love affair with crow caps

SouthFLdigger

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My Safari and it's love affair with crow caps

Every so often I take out my Safari dust it off and send it to the beach. I typically have 2 to 3 dedicated water or beach machines, DFX, BHID 9.5,CZ20, E2. I try to use them all as much as I can to become proficient. Yesterday I hit the beach with my Safari and boy the beach was littered with crowncaps..roughly every 25 feet. No matter what I try to do with the 11" coil, walking angling ..I cannot discriminate them out. Luckily I found one small gold ring and a Stainless watch.My DFX and CZ20 do a great job at discriminating crown caps but not the Minelab. I enjoy the Safari quite a bit for finding old coins in areas I've cleaned with the Gamma and Core, but i really wish the Safari could handle these like the rest. Overall it's a great quality unit that I would love to use more.
 

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RobRieman

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I figured the Safari would have a high Fe number on the caps like the Etrac does.
 

timelord

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I have the same problem, but in my area they come in a little low most of the time around 31 or so. So after digging just a couple I learn not to dig more. They also don't sound as sweet but you always doubt yourself and have to dig the sound every once in a while to be sure....
 

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SouthFLdigger

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Beach:Fisher CZ-20, Beach Hunter ID 9.5" Whites DFX, Minelab Safari and Excalibur 2.
Park and Turf: Teknetics Gamma 6000,Teknetics Delta 4000,Nokta Fors Core
Loaners:ACE-250 9x12 and 7x9.
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I have the same problem, but in my area they come in a little low most of the time around 31 or so. So after digging just a couple I learn not to dig more. They also don't sound as sweet but you always doubt yourself and have to dig the sound every once in a while to be sure....

Fe numbers are not available on the Safari, there is a tonal variation however. The Safari is a tone machine ! Timelord i have 2 small rings that come in right around the same ID range as the screw caps so i dig them. Also some rings or pendants with stones all around produce a similar tonal variation. This is why i was wondering if anyone had a way, heel and toe does not work to well either.
 

RobRieman

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Fe numbers are not available on the Safari, there is a tonal variation however. The Safari is a tone machine ! Timelord i have 2 small rings that come in right around the same ID range as the screw caps so i dig them. Also some rings or pendants with stones all around produce a similar tonal variation. This is why i was wondering if anyone had a way, heel and toe does not work to well either.

Thanks, I did not know that. I have never dug anything but ferrous targets over 30 Fe with the Etrac.
 

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I noticed the same thing between the E-trac and Excalibur 1000. E-trac is easy to tell bottle caps, with the Excalibur you're going to dig them.
 

Fletch88

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I've noticed the bud light lime crownies will get me every time with the Excal. Others I seem to be able to tell by they "scratchiness" of the tone that it's a bottle cap.
 

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Oh, sure, most have a pretty sketchy sound on the Excalibur, but, they're too good to ignore. I've dug that same scratchy sound and found a bracket or necklace too.
 

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My Safari and it's love affair with crow caps

I know I figured at least one of those scratchy tones could be a Rolex watch so I dig them most of the time
 

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SouthFLdigger

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Park and Turf: Teknetics Gamma 6000,Teknetics Delta 4000,Nokta Fors Core
Loaners:ACE-250 9x12 and 7x9.
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Those damn DD coils on this machine and the CORE drive me nuts in these beaches with crown caps ! Looks like there is no avoiding these crown caps unless i use a concentric machine. I guess ill save the Safari for the clean beaches or to scour areas i cleared with my other land units.
 

RobRieman

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I'm stuck inland in Ohio And a crown cap sounds like a piece of sh!t here. Best of luck !
 

timelord

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My thinking if it sounds good dig it.... Most of the time a sweet sound is something good. The problem comes in where we want it to be good and you second guess yourself and dig a bad signal.
 

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At the beach, you should dig everything that has any kind of non-ferrous sound. I've recovered many pieces of good jewelry that sounded like junk. In a park, I probably would have passed it over, but, at the beach it doesn't take all that much to scoop it and see.
 

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SouthFLdigger

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Mar 16, 2014
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Pembroke Pines, Fl
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Beach:Fisher CZ-20, Beach Hunter ID 9.5" Whites DFX, Minelab Safari and Excalibur 2.
Park and Turf: Teknetics Gamma 6000,Teknetics Delta 4000,Nokta Fors Core
Loaners:ACE-250 9x12 and 7x9.
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
At the beach, you should dig everything that has any kind of non-ferrous sound. I've recovered many pieces of good jewelry that sounded like junk. In a park, I probably would have passed it over, but, at the beach it doesn't take all that much to scoop it and see.

I typically do,at the beach i normally only discriminate iron and even dig all foil with my units. However bottlecaps present a specific dilemma, as they can be quite deep and forcing one to dig 14" holes and often times, time is valuable on a beach filled with crown caps. I normally hunt in Relic or All Metal 18-20 Sens and listen to the iron tones to rule them out, but many sound so sweet. But yes the beach is great for digging !
 

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