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  1. #1
    us
    Treasure Hunting America Texas Style

    Oct 2007
    born in 3 sisters, tx. now living west of tilden texas towards laredo on a ranch as a ranch hand
    X-Terra70, X-Terra 50, Ace250, Ace150, GTI 1500,GTA 1000 Ultra, Tejon, Vaquero
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    How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    BY DIGGER @ FINDMALL

    Discussion of lower end tid numbers that you might think could be TRASH

    To get a better idea of what you might be passing over as trash, let’s check out the conductive properties of various items we might scan over while detecting. Again, these numbers are based on the X-Terra 70 TID, using the parameters of Pattern 2. Remember, as I mentioned above, TID numbers are not cast in stone.

    If you are passing over targets represented by the X-Terra 70 TID of 2, 4 and 6, you risk missing rose gold rings, platinum rings, white gold rings and some foreign coins.

    If you are passing over targets represented with a TID of 6, 8 and 10, you risk missing more white gold rings, more platinum rings, thin yellow gold rings, lead and brass shells and the US nickel 3-cent piece.

    If you set your detector to reject TID numbers 10, 12, 14 and 16, you will risk missing very thin silver coins, the $1.00 US Gold coin, thin yellow gold rings, Shield nickels, Liberty V nickels, 40% silver “War” nickels, many wedding bands, 10kt class rings, tokens and more foreign coins.

    If you set your notches to reject TID Numbers 16, 18 and 20, you will risk missing gold rings, tokens, various gold jewelry, 14kt rings, brass, the US $2.50 Gold piece, Indian Head cents, Flying Eagle cents, more foreign coins and even large 10kt class rings.

    If you rejected notch segments 20, 22, 24 and 26, you risk missing more Indian Head pennies, the US silver 3-cent piece, the US $5 Gold piece, large gold rings, small silver pieces, gold jewelry and medallion’s, and still more old tokens.

    So there you have it. A list of some items that you are passing over in an attempt to not dig foil, pull tabs and other "trash" items. I realize that each of us has our own preferences for setting the discrimination on our detectors. I suppose you could say we are all creatures of habit. But the next time you hit that old park or picnic ground, you might want to ask yourself if you’re rejecting notch segments that might include targets that you wouldn’t mind digging. HH Randy

    LOWER END TID NUMBERS:

    TID of 2, 4 and 6......rose gold rings, platinum rings, white gold rings and some foreign coins.

    TID of 6, 8 and 10....white gold rings, more platinum rings, thin yellow gold rings, lead and brass shells and the US nickel 3-cent piece.

    TID numbers 10, 12, 14 and 16...very thin silver coins, the $1.00 US Gold coin, thin yellow gold rings, Shield nickels, Liberty V nickels, 40% silver “War” nickels, many wedding bands, 10kt class rings, tokens and more foreign coins.

    TID Numbers 16, 18 and 20...gold rings, tokens, various gold jewelry, 14kt rings, brass, the US $2.50 Gold piece, Indian Head cents, Flying Eagle cents, more foreign coins and even large 10kt class rings

    TID Numbers 20, 22, 24 and 26...Indian Head pennies, the US silver 3-cent piece, the US $5 Gold piece, large gold rings, small silver pieces, gold jewelry and medallion’s, and still more old tokens

    PLEASE NOTE: TID Numbers of -8 & +48 could be Lg. Iron Trash Objects so what i have gone to doing when i set-up my Xterra 70 is i run PATTENS 1 and check to make shure that all the TID Numbers below #2 are notched out plus #48 is notched out

    Dave

    [i]Treasure Hunting America Texas Style
    [i]http://davemann.webs.com/

  2. #2

    Dec 2006
    667

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Once you recover a gold ring that registered as trash you'll become closer to a "beep dig" hunter. If it beeps and I determine it's coin sized I dig it up.

  3. #3
    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2007
    NJ
    EXCAL 2, SOV. GT
    11,249
    2 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    well what pattern are we talking about here...all metal or pattern one?

    ok so I reread it, pattern one, I should be ok..correct?
    Live your life in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor  in the morning, satan shudders and says, OH CHIT, SHE'S AWAKE.

  4. #4

    Sep 2007
    Dirtyville
    Explorer
    11,406
    40 times
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70



    The truth... find better sites and forget playing detector bingo.
    AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!

  5. #5
    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2007
    NJ
    EXCAL 2, SOV. GT
    11,249
    2 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch


    The truth... find better sites and forget playing detector bingo.
    you lost me on that one.
    Live your life in such a way, that when your feet hit the floor  in the morning, satan shudders and says, OH CHIT, SHE'S AWAKE.

  6. #6

    Sep 2007
    Dirtyville
    Explorer
    11,406
    40 times
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootybay
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch


    The truth... find better sites and forget playing detector bingo.
    you lost me on that one.

    In other words... To make better finds research better sites and forget about detector programs and numbers and just dig!
    AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!

  7. #7

    Oct 2007
    Eudora, Kansas
    Minelab X-Terra 50
    109

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Wow! Do that same display numbers as X-Terra 50 and 70? Richard

  8. #8

    Jun 2008
    6

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    I bought the 70 with the standard coil, plus the 18.5 khz DD. If I run these patterns with the DD will it be more effective all around or more specifically for gold?

  9. #9
    us
    Aug 2008
    Roselawn Indiana
    Minelab X-terra 70
    14

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Excellent post Dave!...Digger is very knowledgeable with the xt70 and as you stated Findmall is a very informative forum.
    Gary | Roselawn Indiana | X-terra 70 | VibraProbe 570 | Sunray Pro Gold

  10. #10
    007
    007 is offline

    Mar 2008
    PA
    X-Terra 70 , Ace 250
    139

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    I agree with Iron Dig , The sites I have gone too are out of the way , with a modern shell casing , bullet , camper/hunter trash "here and there" ,every other object I dig is from around the revolutionary war /french Indian war , and Indian relics " and the junk from that period are keepers" throw it up on eBay and get a few Buck's 8) , Forget modern parks and go into the sticks " you would be pleasantly surprised at the sites you can find using google Earth , With modern technology at your finger tips No site is hunted out , having said this being in good physical shape is a Big Plus , schlepping gear on mile hikes is a huge and physically demanding task

  11. #11
    us
    Mar 2007
    MA.
    X-70 & Myself
    330

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    LoL!!!
    I just drink a few and go and have some fun, it will all come good in the long run.



    It is better to be Hated for who you are. Than Loved by some thing you are not.

                                                             Al Davis.

                                                                                R.I.P.  G.U.

  12. #12

    Sep 2005
    Cartersville, GA
    147

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Does the Exterra "pop" on trash like some other detectors? The E-TRAC pops at the end of the signal on a lot of trash targets.

    Julien

  13. #13
    us
    Don't Drag Your Feet!

    May 2008
    Montgomery, IL
    Minelab E-TRAC w/Sunray X-1
    1,591

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Cr4zyH0rs3
    LoL!!!
    I just drink a few and go and have some fun, it will all come good in the long run.
    I did this when I first got my ACE 250 and the finds were coming along when I least expected it.

    I think one of the best things you can do is practice your digging technique. Get fast at pinpointing a target (even without the pinpoint feature), and then digging and retrieving that target with precision. The more we dig, statistically the more treasure keepers we will find.

  14. #14
    us
    Feb 2006
    Antrim County, MI
    Tek Omega 8000, G2 (soon) Fisher 1270, Minelab Advantage
    141

    Re: How to find better stuff w/ the X-Terra 70

    Quote Originally Posted by jbow
    Does the Exterra "pop" on trash like some other detectors? The E-TRAC pops at the end of the signal on a lot of trash targets.

    Julien
    Some irregularly shaped trash items will tend to hit across neighboring TID segments so in the multi tone modes will give a broken "2 tone" type response. otherwise you have just a single tone that give little audio info as to if its trash or not. the exterras audio does not have much language to it and sounds just a bit to digital for my taste. ML in developing the exterras keyed the segments in software toward US type coins to help them "lock" better thus the broken sounds on some odd shaped items.

    Since I'm a beep dig hunter I preferred 2 tone mode over the multi tone choices to eliminate those broken responses on some target types.

    ML's method definitely works for coins ect. but, its a godsend that they also included the tone choices.

    Tom

 

 

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