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  1. #1

    PETRONEL..............

    It might not be very old or made of gold like some of my other finds but it has a special place in my heart. The Cannon pictured are a fairly common UK find. But a complete Petronel, Fishtailed musket from circa 1640s is a great find in anyones books. They are highly collectable & this one is worth over £100 (not that I'm selling).

    They were filled with black powder & fired for fun!

    When ever I do displays, people comment on this item even though they see the gold coins. Shows it captures the imagination of those that have little interest in metal detecting & history.
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    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
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  2. #2
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    May 2005
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    Re: PETRONEL..............



    Okay, maybe they're not quite up there with Celtic staters, but I think those may be my favorites of all the (fantastic!) stuff you've posted. Gotta love 'em!
    Forgotten but not gone.

  3. #3

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by PBK


    Okay, maybe they're not quite up there with Celtic staters, but I think those may be my favorites of all the (fantastic!) stuff you've posted. Gotta love 'em!
    Thanks, this petronel is one of the best examples I have seen for sale or in books
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  4. #4
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    gb
    May 2008
    uk
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    it still looks like it could be fired!

    have you ever been tempted
    Who needs Cartwheel Pennies anyway?

  5. #5

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by shaun7
    it still looks like it could be fired!

    have you ever been tempted
    not sure where to get black powder
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  6. #6
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    monty

    Jan 2005
    Sand Springs, OK
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Fortunately black powder is plentiful and easy to get here in the USA. I shoot it in my old muzzle loader rifles for deer hunting. I would be tempted to build a little miniature wheeled carriage if I had one and fire it to celebrate holidays. There are a lot of the carbide cannons still around too. But I find such things very interesting, more so than coins even. Monty
    Don't make me loose the hounds! If you dig, Cover up your holes.

  7. #7
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by shaun7
    it still looks like it could be fired!

    have you ever been tempted
    not sure where to get black powder


    if i was still 13 i would try opening up some bangers!


    i'll bring some with me next time
    Who needs Cartwheel Pennies anyway?

  8. #8
    nz
    Aug 2006
    Auckland
    Garrett 2500 GTI
    402

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Very nice finds crusader, wish we had that sort of stuff here in New Zealand. WOuld love to see your collection one day.

    Cheers Sasnz

  9. #9

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by shaun7
    it still looks like it could be fired!

    have you ever been tempted
    not sure where to get black powder
    From Fireworks by the way very nice, never had anything like those two buties

  10. #10

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by shaun7
    it still looks like it could be fired!

    have you ever been tempted
    not sure where to get black powder
    From Fireworks by the way very nice, never had anything like those two buties
    oh yeah......
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  11. #11

    Sep 2007
    Dirtyville
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    Re: PETRONEL..............



    I like that better than almost everything you post!
    AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!

  12. #12
    Charter Member
    For that special someone. Can ya diggit?

    Dec 2008
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    The cannon may be common over there but those are both very cool finds. 8) Congrats.

  13. #13

    Aug 2007
    Deep Dug Hole, VA
    161

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    I must agree with PBK!!! Truly fantastic!! I always enjoy your post!! Keep up the good work!!

    Sneaky

  14. #14
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    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Those are Wonderful! Kids should still play with things like these--there's no choking hazard.
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  15. #15

    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Those are Wonderful! Kids should still play with things like these--there's no choking hazard.
    I understand the joke, but just to add to the debate. It was unlikely that kids had the chance to play with them. They were more a Geltlemens table piece. Something they would play with after lunch to impress their friends. Maybe the odd kid had them in a wealthy family but not that many.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  16. #16
    Charter Member
    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
    Moonlight and Magnolias
    Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver µMax
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    29 times
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Those are Wonderful! Kids should still play with things like these--there's no choking hazard.
    I understand the joke, but just to add to the debate. It was unlikely that kids had the chance to play with them. They were more a Geltlemens table piece. Something they would play with after lunch to impress their friends. Maybe to odd kid had them in a wealthy family but not that many.
    Now THAT I never knew! Next time I have a dinner party I am going to whip out my matchbox sized Yacht. Maybe I can fill it with gunpowder so it will be impressive as well. 8)

    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  17. #17
    nl
    Jun 2007
    West Friesland, NL
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    Yes that was a great find, a very nice Petronel. I agree with you also about the cannon, but this one is pretty neat.
    West Friesland, Netherlands, www.wf4.nl

  18. #18

    Mar 2006
    Fisher F75, Tesoro Tejon
    287
    Banner Finds (1)

    great condition bud

    i recovered a very similar petronel last year. - not quite as fine condition as yours
    hh
    slim

    http://relichunt.com

  19. #19

    Re: great condition bud

    Quote Originally Posted by mudslideslim
    i recovered a very similar petronel last year. - not quite as fine condition as yours
    hh
    slim

    http://relichunt.com
    They are a special find. I was just lucky to get 1 which was near perfect. Never had another since.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  20. #20
    us
    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
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    Re: PETRONEL..............

    that is a really neat find !!!
    ALLEN

 

 
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