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  1. #1
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    Jun 2009
    Lower Canada
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    3-4 pounds of pain

    O.k., found this last fall, but because I've just signed up I figured I might as well share this one.
    After working some mountain paths (really rocky area, big pain, heavy iron content in the rock) for a few hours, I followed one sloping, overgrown one down a steep incline, gettting down to the bottom I found nothing, figuring the day was pretty much a loss, I made my way back up. It was on the way up I got a super strong signal...most of the time these turn out to be huge pieces of scrap so imagine my amazement when I found this...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 3-4 pounds of pain-morning-star.jpg   3-4 pounds of pain-morning-star-2.jpg  

  2. #2
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    WOW.... that is a *fantastic* find!!! I bet that ended your day off on a high note!
    Great job & Welcome to T-Net!!!

    Bran <><
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    Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    how about a description of the item including date?
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  4. #4

    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    how about a description of the item including date?
    am I going blind or is that a Medieval Mace and whats it doing in Canada

  5. #5

    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    how about a description of the item including date?
    am I going blind or is that a Medieval Mace and whats it doing in Canada
    my thoughts exactly, maybe Spanish 17th C, but thats a wild guess, I'm clueless on this one
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  6. #6
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    This could have been a mace at one point, which someone turned into a military flail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail_(weapon)) or morning star, because of the broken chain link attached to it.

    Here is another example of a similar morning star found in Montreal, Canada...
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/71319526@N00/3207104760/


    Bran <><
    Rom. 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

    Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

  7. #7
    ca
    Jun 2009
    Lower Canada
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by godisnum1
    This could have been a mace at one point, which someone turned into a military flail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail_(weapon)) or morning star, because of the broken chain link attached to it.

    Here is another example of a similar morning star found in Montreal, Canada...
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/71319526@N00/3207104760/


    Bran <><
    No, that's mine I'm papapico for my photography.
    And I'm figuring it's definitely a morning star. There are marks which could possibly be from combat use. I agree w/ silver searcher, medieval, but as for how it's here? No clue. From any images of seen (paintings, lithographs, ect. ) of Cartier, or any early Canadiana, there's never been any morning stars, or maces for that matter.....

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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by mile-ender
    No, that's mine I'm papapico for my photography.
    And I'm figuring it's definitely a morning star. There are marks which could possibly be from combat use. I agree w/ silver searcher, medieval, but as for how it's here? No clue. From any images of seen (paintings, lithographs, ect. ) of Cartier, or any early Canadiana, there's never been any morning stars, or maces for that matter.....
    AH!!! lol
    I was thinking that it looked awfully similar... but I just figured that maybe it was lost by the same race of people that lost yours. lol
    Well a "morning star" was the first thing I thought of when I saw it... as far as the age, I'm not even sure.
    Definitely looks pretty old...
    Hope you can get a solid ID on it!

    Bran <><
    Rom. 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

    Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

  9. #9
    us
    Jul 2009
    8

    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Have you emailed a university or museum to get their opinion on it? I would love to know more about it and why it is in Canada. Assuming it is authenticly old and not some recreation someobdy lost years ago while playing "knights" up in the hills ha ha.

    Weird find, want to know more.

  10. #10
    ca
    Jun 2009
    Lower Canada
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthroat
    Have you emailed a university or museum to get their opinion on it? I would love to know more about it and why it is in Canada. Assuming it is authenticly old and not some recreation someobdy lost years ago while playing "knights" up in the hills ha ha.

    Weird find, want to know more.
    Same thing I was thinking...Contacted museums by phone and e-mail, always get the run around at some point this summer I may just start doing the rounds with it. Bring it down in person, maybe to the university as well.
    I can tell you though, holding it, I'm pretty damn sure it's not a reproduction. I wouldn't wanna be smacked outside the head with it

  11. #11

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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    That item has created areas of envy in my heart I've solely missed. That is one fine piece of military history.
    Carl

  12. #12
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    Apr 2009
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    could it be Viking?
    Don

  13. #13
    ca
    Jun 2009
    Lower Canada
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by smasheriii2004
    could it be Viking?
    hoping

  14. #14

    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by mile-ender
    Quote Originally Posted by smasheriii2004
    could it be Viking?
    hoping
    I think the design is too late for Sandinavian.
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  15. #15
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Cru... would the mold seem mean anything? Could that help date it? It's remarkably clean for something assumed that old...

    I dunno... just asking...

  16. #16
    ca
    Jun 2009
    Lower Canada
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by mile-ender
    Quote Originally Posted by smasheriii2004
    could it be Viking?
    hoping
    I think the design is too late for Sandinavian.
    you're probably right (unfortunately). I haven't seen any reference to morning stars in use by the Norse.

  17. #17

    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Cru... would the mold seem mean anything? Could that help date it? It's remarkably clean for something assumed that old...

    I dunno... just asking...
    I not very up on weapons, so won't like to comment. I've seen sandinavian examples & they are not the same.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
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  18. #18
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    Sep 2007
    Carson City, NV
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    just think of how many possible skulls were split open with that thing.
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  19. #19
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    May 2009
    Yuma Az
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    can you say ouch
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  20. #20
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    Oct 2007
    Pasadena, Texas
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    Re: 3-4 pounds of pain

    use it as a nutcracker...
    hey Cinderella,go find yourself a fella...

 

 
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