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  1. #1

    Sep 2007
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    Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Found this coin in my first few years of detecting and probably tried to ID it, but at the time would have been an overwhelming task given the condition and number of varieties. But now I have a much easier time sorting coins out, I figured why not give it a try. I believe it's Miller 33.5-T.2 rarity 5+ (about 50 known)

    http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_co...33.05_T.02.htm

    Kirk PA only wishes he could find one like this.
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  2. #2
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    May 2009
    Pennsylvania
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Is that the best you can do for detecting 10 years in CT? Poor thing is all red. You must be focusing on those Loyalists sites in CT over the CT copper sites in CT.

    Kirk
    Keep the passion high!

  3. #3
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    Colonial East End NY LI Member of the Historical Artifact Detecting Team

    Jun 2009
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Nice re find and the date is visible if anyone can find one of those its me iam 15 miles across the Sound from Conn. one day maybe ,where was it in your iron bucket ?
    If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver and copper why leave them in the ground to disappear forever , dig them out and save History !!
    http://www.artifactdetectingteam.com/Finds.html

  4. #4

    Sep 2007
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk PA
    Is that the best you can do for detecting 10 years in CT? Poor thing is all red. You must be focusing on those Loyalists sites in CT over the CT copper sites in CT.

    Kirk

    I only hunted tot lots in CT. (and still beat you)
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  5. #5
    us
    Jun 2010
    Otsego County, Michigan
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Whoa!!! Congratulations man! Bet that was nice
    Minelab E-Trac

  6. #6

    Sep 2007
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Quote Originally Posted by ProPointer
    Whoa!!! Congratulations man! Bet that was nice

    Well I was hoping for super rare and even in that condition worth a few grand... but I'll still take it!
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  7. #7
    us
    Aug 2009
    The Ozarks, Missouri
    BH Tracker IV, Fast Tracker, 4, 7, 8, 10 and 11" DD coils
    548
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Great ID! If I could even find a common big copper...

  8. #8
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    May 2009
    White's XL Pro 6000
    957
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    I know you'll never forget this one:

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  9. #9

    Sep 2007
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Quote Originally Posted by KylePA
    I know you'll never forget this one:


    I like mine better.
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  10. #10
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    May 2009
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by KylePA
    I know you'll never forget this one:


    I like mine better.
    Come to PA and you'll dig one on every early site!

  11. #11

    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    The up side to Conn coppers are you can find Rare and Very Rare ones, the down side to it , not quite the same as finding a Rare or Very Rare NJ state copper. Conn coppers have so many varieties and many many of them are rare or very rare, so getting on does happen quite often, but NJ coppers have quite a few varieites too, but nowhere near the Conn coppers numbers but yet, to find a Rare one or Very Rare is RARE! In my survey of over 300 ground found NJ coppers only one is a Rare variety and no Very Rare ones reported at all!

    Now speaking of rare Conn coppers, the very first one my son found when he was just beginning to detect back in the 80s, was his rarest Conn copper to date and his first one of quite a few that he has since found.

    Miller 36-k.3 R-7+ 3-4 known (Coin Facts, but the Bowers book has it 5-8 known URS4)

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    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  12. #12

    Sep 2007
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew



    Yeah even 5-8 is pretty dang rare, and I would bet that coin isn't too bad in person.
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  13. #13

    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Your post brings up something that we have talked about before, proper cleaning of the coins after finding them, in order to see the details needed to ID a variety. I remember years ago getting the opportunity to visit and see the collection of a man who I think has/had one of the biggest collections of anyone of ground found relics and coppers in NJ. He was rather inspirational but what struck me as odd, he basically never did clean his finds that much and as far as identifying a variety of a particular coin, I don't think he ever "got into that". To this day I wonder out of the thousands of colonials and early American coins that he found, how many of them are of the rare, very rare or even one or two known variety. I know he is and was not alone, that there are still to this day many who find the coppers and just are satisfied to know what it is and never go beyond that. It is a shame for some if they are in need of cash, since even a lowly copper with wear and some corrosion, can bring big bucks if it is one that is desired by collectors. Funny, for example, a ground found 1794 Large Cent can be either a $25 coin or a $2500 coin in same condition, just depends upon the rarity.........

    Bottom line, carefully look at all coins you found, very old or just old and try to get the variety identified, and Red Book is not the best guide in the world for it, if one does not have the books, one does have the computer and the power of google and others search engines, most of the data needed is on line, somewhere, and if not, people on the numerous forums on the internet are usually there to help ID, free of charge.
    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  14. #14

    Sep 2007
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    a ground found 1794 Large Cent can be either a $25 coin or a $2500 coin in same condition, just depends upon the rarity.........

    Don


    Yeah and a CT can be $20 or $20,000. Would imagine it would have to be unique and pretty sweet condition to have that sort of value, but I believe it is possible.

    I think people that have no interest in what variety they have don't know how much the value can change. The Redbook certainly doesn't do them any favors either.
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  15. #15
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    Re: Had a rare CT for years and never knew

    and just think im excited when I find a wheatie !!
    ALLEN

 

 

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