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  1. #1

    Jul 2006
    The Netherlands
    Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
    22

    One of my best finds

    Well i am new here and to get to know the searchers its probably the best way to show some finds.

    This coin i found 3 months ago and its a ducat of Transylvania, the land of Dracula.

    As you can see it is in a very good shape and has the exact weigt of 3.5 grams.
    That means it has still its original weight.
    The strange thing do it has eight corners and had me dazzled for a while untill the experts told me it was really a coin.
    I have been searching for allmost 3 years now and this is my first gold coin.

    I live in The Netherlands and my question was: How did this coin end up here??
    Well thats because people in the early days also could pay with gold or silver, the weight i mean.

    Hope youll enjoy watching!

    Greatings from The Netherlands!

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails One of my best finds-gouden-munt-schoon-001.jpg   One of my best finds-gouden-munt-schoon.jpg  

  2. #2
    Charter Member
    hu
    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
    12,716
    2 times

    Re: One of my best finds

    Excellent find ! For your first coin,that is definitely the way to do it. Some of my family were from Transylvania....Maybe they lost it!
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  3. #3
    Charter Member
    hu
    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
    12,716
    2 times

    Re: One of my best finds

    I know nothing about ducats ...what is the denomination....I know that one was struck for the Emporere Leoplold on a hundred ducat. Is this one?
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  4. #4

    Jul 2006
    The Netherlands
    Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
    22

    Re: One of my best finds

    Yes this is 1 ducat becaus of the weight .
    Correct me if i am wrong but 1 ducat is 3.5 gram 2 ducats is 7 gram etc.
    The weigt in gold determend its value.

    Determination of the coin: ducat of Leopold I ruler of Transylvania
    Made in the year 1699.
    Mintplace KV means Kolosvar
    Gold 0.986
    LEOPOLD D.(ei)G.(ratia)R.(omanorum)S.(emper)A.(ugustus)G.( ermania)H.(ungaria)B.(ohemia)R.(ex)

    Also in Krause KM#522

  5. #5
    ge
    Jul 2006
    Bounty Hunter Landstar, Minelab Explorer SE
    94
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: One of my best finds

    really great find.
    It should be quite thin coin is not it?

  6. #6
    JW
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    DemoExpert

    Apr 2005
    No. California
    ML ExII, GPX4000
    242

    Re: One of my best finds

    Oooooooh Ahhhhhhhh

    Purdy coin, 0.125 ounces of gold is always good, 1699 even better!!!!!

    Dracula, sorry Transylvania, coolness needle is pegged!
    Did you find it in town or in the woods?
    Quite an awesome find, congrats!

  7. #7

    Jul 2006
    The Netherlands
    Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
    22

    Re: One of my best finds

    This coin is indeed very thin and as you can see it is very slightly bended.
    This coin was found in the midle of knowwhere on farmers land.
    I knew there used to be a small road till 200 years ago.
    The funny thing was i just bought another detector and was searching just to get to know that new detector

    Glad i bought that Lobo

  8. #8
    ge
    Jul 2006
    Bounty Hunter Landstar, Minelab Explorer SE
    94
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: One of my best finds

    What was depth where you found the coin?

  9. #9

    Jul 2006
    The Netherlands
    Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
    22

    Re: One of my best finds

    The depth was so around 4 or 5 inches and the year before i also found a great item at that same spot.
    This is also a reasonable rare find.
    This item was used for cleaning that old clay-pipes.
    It is made of silver.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails One of my best finds-pijpgarnituur-hersteld-001.jpg   One of my best finds-zilveren-pijpgarnituur-002.jpg  

  10. #10
    us
    May 2006
    Treasure Coast (Vero Beach)
    Minelab EXII. Tesoro Tigershark, eyeballs to bloody fingers
    573

    Re: One of my best finds

    Superb finds..........Congrat's
    The item on the bottom...looks more like a personal grooming kit with pipe cleaner attachments...I see an ear wax spoon, nail scraper...

    Again, Congrats

    Trez

  11. #11

    Mar 2005
    Cullman, Alabama
    Garrett Ace 250
    683

    Re: One of my best finds

    WOW!
    "Today's the day!" - Mel Fisher

  12. #12
    Ole Mole

    Re: One of my best finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Trez
    Superb finds..........Congrat's
    The item on the bottom...looks more like a personal grooming kit with pipe cleaner attachments...I see an ear wax spoon, nail scraper...

    Again, Congrats

    Trez
    You forgot the little spoon to snort snuff

    Great finds
    HH

  13. #13

    Jan 2005
    kahnawake, Quebec Canada
    147

    Re: One of my best finds

    u sure that the original coin shape?...it looks clipped, if its clipped how can it still be its original wieght?



  14. #14

    Jul 2006
    The Netherlands
    Tesoro Lobo Supertraq
    22

    Re: One of my best finds

    Well it looks that way but its really hammered on an octagonal peace of gold

    At first i also thought it was clipped because of the shape .
    I placed an image of this coin on another forum and this man told me that this was original.
    I also mailed to the Austrian mint and they also told me this was really an original coin.

    Krause Mishler nr= KM#522.

  15. #15

    Jan 2005
    kahnawake, Quebec Canada
    147

    Re: One of my best finds

    for sure thats one heck of a nice find!

  16. #16
    us
    May 2005
    Northern California
    4,955
    10 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: One of my best finds

    They are both nice finds Frisian. There's more out there so why are you sitting there reading this?
    Banking off a Northeast wind, sailin' on a summer breeze

  17. #17
    Looking for my First Buried Chest...LOL

    Oct 2005
    Virginia Beach, VA
    356

    Re: One of my best finds

    Beautiful Finds....
    It's only a dream until you find that pot o' gold at the end of the rainbow.

  18. #18

    Feb 2006
    Aberdare, South Wales. United Kingdom
    15

    Re: One of my best finds

    Beutifull coin!
    Well found and thanks for sharing it with us all.

    Colin
    He who laughs last...........................Didnt get it first!!

  19. #19
    Timber tromper-Bushwhacker-Cornstalker

    Jul 2006
    Northeast KY
    2 Whites MXT's Goldscan 5 PI
    446

    Re: One of my best finds

    Superb! Now go get the rest of them. Many Congrats.
    Have detectors will travel

  20. #20
    us
    Jan 2006
    Golden Isles Of Georgia
    Garrett GTI-2500 w/Sunray Invader GI-1 probe
    473

    Re: One of my best finds

    These were clipped by the mint, prior to being struck. (As opposed to the sort of clipping which was practiced dishonestly by people who wanted to steal gold or silver, a little shaving at a time, reducing the coin's weight.)

    Square, hexagonal, and octagonal coins like this are often referred to as "klippes".

    Leopold got his nickname of "Leopold the Hogmouth" from his unusual mandibular prognathism, a hereditary deformity shared by many Hapsburg rulers. He sure had a strange lower jaw, as visible on his coins! He must've been quite ugly in person. But he definitely makes for an interesting historical character.

    Even a silver coin of Leopold the Hogmouth would count as a great find in my book. But to find a gold ducat, and a klippe, at that, well... that's truly remarkable!


    Leopold "the Hogmouth" and "The Habsburg Jaw":

    http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/habsburg-jaw.htm
    Robertson W. Shinnick, World Numismatist, ANA R-206823

 

 
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