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    Castine "Penobscot Expedition" Penobscot Indian Gorget 1779

    Thanks so much for your remarks about relics and coins I have found in Castine, Maine from the "Penobscot Expedition. A little known Revolutionary War site I was able to hunt for 14 years up until 2009 and 5 days in May of this year. The next relic that came from the same woods close to Ft George as the 1/5 cut real Gen. McLean ordered to be cut is an American Indian one. This was a dual site and an outwork from the fort that late in the siege the Americans were able to get about 150 feet from the fort and had a small engagement with the Brits. So both American and British relics have been found there.
    I and others had hunted this piece of woods that indeed was a relic and coin mine. Many King George coppers, a few cannon balls, grapeshot, mortar fragments and dropped musket balls were found. To include that 1/5 cut real I posted earlier. Even though it was pretty well hunted out I kept being drawn back to listen for those deep targets . One day I found a small piece of brass with a hole in it and like a partial half moon and like all things I find kept in case it could be Ided later. Two weeks later I decide it's time to do some sifting and brought in my hand made sifter. So I am, down about 10 inches and on the side of the hole I feel a metal object and gently pull it out. In my hand is what looks like a half moon piece of brass in terrible condition and then. It took me a few minutes but then I realized it was good piece of a gorget. Gorgets were used by the French, British and American officers and worn around the neck.. This one was plain and of French design and quite large. Remembering the other small piece found 2 weeks earlier at about 5 inches deep when I got home put them together to complete it.
    Of interest the Penobscot Indians allied themselves with the Americans and a small group fought side by side with them in this siege. It is my opinion only since the two pieces were found about 12 inches apart and at different depths most likely the Indian was killed in that small skirmish and probably from a musket ball or grapeshot.. However that is just my opinion but from my knowledge of gorgets this one was probably made during the French & Indian war and given as a gift to the IClick image for larger version. 

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    Here are three pictures of the gorget as it looked when found, lightly cleaned and then fully cleaned. Thanks for reading.
    Last edited by Castineman1779; Dec 25, 2014 at 06:18 PM.

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    Very cool. Glad you didn't let the restoration guys at it.

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    Awesome! I've never seen one dug!

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    IP- Yes it was a special day when I found that as I am from Old Town, Maine and the Penobscot tribe is on Indian Island. Went to Old Town high school and had many Indian friends and wore proudly my high school coat with Old Town Indians on it. However sadly I learned in May politics got to a few members of the tribe and now the Old Town Indians are no more and some animal , that looks like a rodent, is on their coats. Very sad . This gorget is very thin and in another 50 years would have just rotted away.
    Last edited by Castineman1779; Dec 25, 2014 at 06:00 PM.

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    great piece of history you dug, and a cool story to boot.....ps I would stick to the story as well....i's a special artifact with a story to tell, for sure.

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    Hey IP
    Yes it is always a gamble trying to clean relics and most of the time I usually just brush off the dirt and leave them as found. This one however cried out for some tender loving care. Since these early French gorgets are hand hammered they are thin to begin with a probably if it did not have a iron wire around the rim would have came out in pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by villagenut View Post
    great piece of history you dug, and a cool story to boot.....ps I would stick to the story as well....i's a special artifact with a story to tell, for sure.
    Thanks ,\. Of interest at the end of my write up on the gorget I did put"That 's my story and I am sticking to it " but then remembered someone made a comment on my first relic post of Cpt Hinkley's buckle and it did sound arrogant so removed it. However your right and like the buckle I will reinstate that comment but not to be arrogant just my knowledge of the history .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangum View Post
    Awesome! I've never seen one dug!
    Yup I have never seen another and rarely are they lost. I must say was in shock when the other larger piece was found. Since I knew the Penobscots fought there it was easy to ID.. Thanks Gary

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    Incredible, is all that comes to mind. Well done.
    Is site now off limits or under concrete?
    Peace ✌

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    Quote Originally Posted by CincinnatiKid View Post
    Incredible, is all that comes to mind. Well done.
    Is site now off limits or under concrete?
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    No it is off limits because of a archeologist from the University of Maine who purswaded the local conservation group to post it. I got in 14 good years of hunting plus 5 days in May this year hunting mainly beaches before that happened in 2007.

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    Nice job recovering those pieces /= whole. And an awesome back-story too. Always grateful for that. You had some good time there, man. You're lucky! Yakker

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    The items you recovered and the ties to certain events or groups make them extra special . It is such a rarity to really understand the history behind a dug item. The gorget is such a scarce item to see come out of the ground. Anything native such as a spear point or arrowhead is a great find but this one is a lot more special in my opinion. More great history. Thanks Gary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahab8 View Post
    The items you recovered and the ties to certain events or groups make them extra special . It is such a rarity to really understand the history behind a dug item. The gorget is such a scarce item to see come out of the ground. Anything native such as a spear point or arrowhead is a great find but this one is a lot more special in my opinion. More great history. Thanks Gary
    Thanks Abe
    Jeff got me straightened out to where the posts should go so I will be under "Best Finds." Am doing a rewrite now on Cpt. Hnikley's shoe buckle frame. I did not do the little relic proud so it will be a redo.

 

 

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