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  1. #1

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    1849 colt pocket revolver (update)

    Found this colt pocket revolver recently while looking for a campsite. Amazing how good the condition is after being in the ground for so long! Think it's good enough for the banner!!??

    UPDATE:
    I didn't order a history from Colt because I didn't realize that they charge SO SO MUCH! I did find out though that it was mfg. in 1865. This puts our site as VERY late war or more likely, a small post war altercation.
    Just thought you'd like to know.
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  2. #2

    Jan 2007
    Long Island N.Y.
    Minelab X-Terra-50, Whites classic 2
    138

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Amazing find. Any numbers stamped into it?

  3. #3
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    20,667
    48 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Nice find. It looks like a cap and ball. I think I see the nipples on the barrel. Is that a brass triggerguard?
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  4. #4

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Yep,
    The backstrap and triggerguard and brass and clearly show the S/N and inspectors marks. It also still has traces of nickle plating left on it as well.

  5. #5
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    20,667
    48 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    I see now. Definitely cap and ball. I dont know the best way to preserve but I would be tempted to put some oil on it.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  6. #6

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    It was pretty cruddy when dug. I used a VERY careful electrolysis treatment on it and removed as much of the cancer as I could. I then treated it with K-phos. Amazing stuff! It's essentially a mild phosphoric acid wash that will stabilize it probably a lot longer than I'll be around. The wood has also been preserved. I'm really not too worried about degrading any further.......Heck, I'll probably find two more tomorrow! LOL!!!

  7. #7

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    The rest of the finds can be found here:
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,96572.0.html

  8. #8

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill33
    Quote Originally Posted by morgan70
    It was pretty cruddy when dug. I used a VERY careful electrolysis treatment on it and removed as much of the cancer as I could. I then treated it with K-phos. Amazing stuff! It's essentially a mild phosphoric acid wash that will stabilize it probably a lot longer than I'll be around. The wood has also been preserved. I'm really not too worried about degrading any further.......Heck, I'll probably find two more tomorrow! LOL!!!
    Terrific. So can I have one when you die?

    Q
    Sure,
    When we find this camp I'll probably just be throwing them in the "junk" pile anyway LOL!

  9. #9

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    I went into more detail in my post on todays finds. We're looking for a camp but found what I think are a couple of small schirmish sites. I know that we are getting close though

  10. #10
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,092
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    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    ah quite the gun you got there if its .44 cal & (4 3/4" barrel)---its 1851 colt "navy" model (favored by US Marshal's quite a bit) there were also .36 cal model 1851 colts--- however if its .31 or .36 cal & (4" barrel) its a 1849 model "pocket" colt ---over 200 variants of the "pocket" model are known to exist)---both models are pre civil war guns and could have easily been used in the war---they are both 6 shot guns --cap and ball type blackpowder guns --- quite the find ****if still loaded be careful while handling till its unloaded ---the .44 cal guns were highly favored "back up guns" by officers in the civil war ---being they were small in size , easy to handle and most of all held 6 powerful and deadly .44 cal shots----(an added plus was that .44 cal was "standard issue" union pistol ammo for thier issued "pistols")---Ivan

  11. #11
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    20,667
    48 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    I have a working replica Colt .44 Navy.Your Pocket model has a shorter barrel. I read somewhere that the Confederates used quite a bit of brass on this revolver frame because steel was harder to come by in the South and was needed for cannons. Is this true?
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  12. #12
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,092
    19 times
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    you bet its true the south used lots of brass parts during the civil war ---beware the .44 cal long barrel colt replica that you are showing tends to crack on the brass frame part---at least the one I had did--- there was a weak spot on the brass frame area --keep a eye out for it --thats why I switched out to the all steel 1858 remington model replica---basically the 1851 in .44 cal (navy) was not the "pocket" model ---the" pocket model" was the much smaller 1849 model -.31 cal gun or maybe a .36 cal at most------a .44 cal 1851 (navy) colt even with the "shorten 4 3/4" barrel" was a bit too big and bulky to carry easily in your "pocket"---they normally called a 1851 colt .44 with the shorten barrel "the lawman or marshal's gun" --- they were well like by police types--the shortened barrel made them lighter and thus faster to handle ---and since most pistol play was close --no need for a "long barrel" which just gave a crook some to grab at in close quarters------the "pocket" guns were more the "smaller" 1849 model colts in either .31 or.36 cal type size--- they were much smaller and thus easier and handier to "pocket carry"---hince "pocket" gun--Ivan

  13. #13
    us
    wolf pack!!!

    Sep 2006
    Texas
    Minlabe SE, ace 250, fisher 1280x
    4,506
    Banner Finds (2)
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    I Vote "worthy of the Banner" use picture of hand holding the gun. Way cool dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Leave no stone unturned.

  14. #14
    Thanks for playing. You lose.

    Aug 2006
    smAlbany, NY
    DFX
    1,258

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Let us know what Colt says about it! It will make for a good story in W&ET, so once you know get your story in!
    Never underestimate the stupidity of people.

  15. #15
    Charter Member
    us
    Jan 2007
    Western New York
    Whites DFX, Whites 5900, Minelab Excalibur
    583
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    Cool find! I wonder what the history behind that is!

  16. #16

    Jan 2007
    Portland, OR.
    Whites MXT, Whites XL Pro, Compass x80, Garrett 1350
    155

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver

    I keep looking at your cool find! Would look good on my wall! LOL
    Steve's Bark Park Adventures

  17. #17

    Mar 2003
    Illinois
    Minelab Explorer SE Pro - Fisher CZ 5
    560

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver (update)

    very cool find !!. Ron

  18. #18

    Oct 2005
    N.Alabama
    Minelab x-terra 70
    39

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver (update)

    As of today, I also recovered an Eagle Breastplate a short distance from where the revolver was found!!

  19. #19

    Aug 2005
    1,250

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver (update)

    Ok so how much is "so so much"? Meaning how much did Colt want for a history?

  20. #20

    Mar 2006
    Central SC
    Old Garrett Deep Seeker
    220

    Re: 1849 colt pocket revolver (update)

    If fading memory serves me the backstrap and trigger guard were silver plated not nickle. Nice find.

    Pax Christi
    Rev. Joel+
    Pax Christi
    Rev. Joel+

 

 
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