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  1. #1
    us
    Apr 2006
    PA
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    1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Here is my oldest coin to date! Now, KirkPA, who is going to get the foyst (first) 1600 coin?





    zoyster
    Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!

    The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!

    KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!

  2. #2

    Jul 2005
    Romeotopia
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    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Nicely done! Almost into the 1600s with that coin. Do you think it was cut purposely or by the plow? To me the cut looks almost new...newer than a couple hundred years anyway...
    If the elevator tries to bring you down, go crazy, punch a higher floor!

  3. #3
    us
    Apr 2006
    PA
    White's XL Pro 6000
    1,503

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    I e-mailed Philip Mossman, a Colonial coin expert, and he said that I had a very interesting coin. "It was cut to probably make a farthing for smaller change," as stated by Mr. Mossman.

    zoyster
    Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!

    The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!

    KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!

  4. #4

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Quote Originally Posted by zoyboy
    I e-mailed Philip Mossman, a Colonial coin expert, and he said that I had a very interesting coin. "It was cut to probably make a farthing for smaller change," as stated by Mr. Mossman.

    zoyster
    Does that happen over there? Never happened over here in that period.
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  5. #5
    us
    Apr 2007
    Colonial, PA
    White's Pro XL
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    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Nicely done! Almost into the 1600s with that coin. Do you think it was cut purposely or by the plow? To me the cut looks almost new...newer than a couple hundred years anyway...
    I guess, if the other part is found, it was "decked" by the plow. I am hoping that it was "decked," instead of cut by some tavern keeper.

    Zoy, I will find the 1600s wilver!

  6. #6
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    (below) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
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    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Nicely done! Almost into the 1600s with that coin. Do you think it was cut purposely or by the plow? To me the cut looks almost new...newer than a couple hundred years anyway...
    Interesting point romeo. The cut copper I found looks similar. Kind of looks like they cut it most of the way through and then snapped off the last part. It's straight as an arrow 2/3 of the way across but the last third is rough. No matter how you look at it though, that is one awesome find. Go get us another Zoy!! Here is the pic of the cut copper I found. I wish it had the detail yours does.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1700 cut William III halfpenny-img_0823.jpg   1700 cut William III halfpenny-img_0823.jpg  
    Large copper total for 2008 --7
    1797 Draped Bust large cent 
    1809 Classic Head half cent  
    1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
    1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
    1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
    No detail coppers--2

  7. #7

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Crusader asked: [/quote]
    Does that happen over there? Never happened over here in that period.
    [/quote]

    Cutting of copper into halves was not uncommon at all, I do wonder what you mean by that period, since William III coppers circulated for a very long time in America and I am sure since his was found in Central Pennsylvania that it most likely was lost in the mid to late 1700's...Now, when it was cut in half

    I also have a cut in half William III copper amongst my William III coppers found in New Jersey.

    Don
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1700 cut William III halfpenny-williamiiicut.jpg  
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  8. #8

    Mar 2005
    Minelab Explorer SE/Garrett GTI 2500/ Ace 250
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    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    very cool find Zoy! its cool that you got the piece with the date!
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  9. #9

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Crusader asked:
    Does that happen over there? Never happened over here in that period.
    [/quote]

    Cutting of copper into halves was not uncommon at all, I do wonder what you mean by that period, since William III coppers circulated for a very long time in America and I am sure since his was found in Central Pennsylvania that it most likely was lost in the mid to late 1700's...Now, when it was cut in half

    I also have a cut in half William III copper amongst my William III coppers found in New Jersey.

    Don
    [/quote]

    That one looks cut & proves the point I was asking. What I meant by that period includes the 1700s 1800s 1900s.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds

  10. #10
    Charter Member
    us
    Jul 2006
    Cheshire, Mass
    White's XLT, DFX 300
    550

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    My first Copper ever found was a cut one...luckily the date was on the coin...1730. One of my best finds, and most interesting ones to date.

    Not only can you show someone the old money, but they can actually 'see' how smaller change was actually
    'made'.

    Great find!
    HH,Hank 8)

  11. #11

    Sep 2007
    Dirtyville
    Explorer
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    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny



    I have a site that near every coin find is a cut copper. My friends and I weren't even the first people to hunt there and I bet we dug 10-12 pieces. I wouldn't be surprised if 25 or more total has come out. I've never really come up with a good answer because all the coins do date what was circulating at the time. There may have been many complete coins but obviously easy pickens for the first guys.
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  12. #12

    Nov 2006
    Central,Ny
    Whites DFX
    972

    Re: 1700 cut William III halfpenny

    A CUT ABOVE ! !!

    Kick butt cut colonial Zoy

    Crazy way to make change...Think it would go over well in a WalMart or Target cutting quaters and dimes ?

    Adding a pic for ya of three chopped colonial coppas..one cut into a arrow point ! ((( These three from ..you guessed it - the blockouse / fort site )))

    Expect more in '08

    D.
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