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    I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    I actually found this copper about 20 years ago, and always thought it was a George III variant of some sort. Back in those days we didn't have the internet to reference things to. Any way I got looking at it again recently a little closer with the jewelers loupe, looked up early British coppers and it turns out to be a 1694 William and Mary half penny! Up to that point I always thought my George II 1749 British farthing was the oldest. I was very excited about it so I thought I would share the excitement with my friends here. I just wish it were in a little better shape, but I'll take it anyway.

    I am putting the internet photo first, then my coins...Good hunting everyone!
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    Research and ye shall find!

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    That's a W&M OK. 8)

    I was shocked this week to get my W&M 1690 Tin Halfpenny from a park

    Makes you think how many other detectorist have their oldest find tucked away in a pile of grots.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    That's a W&M OK. 8)

    I was shocked this week to get my W&M 1690 Tin Halfpenny from a park

    Makes you think how many other detectorist have their oldest find tucked away in a pile of grots.
    Congratulations on your 1690 W&M! Coins that old are very hard to come by in the US. You are very fortunate to live in a country so rich in history. The property where I found my coin used to belong to a Revolutionary War General. His mansion is long gone now but I found many interesting items there over the years.

    Some of my ancestors came from Wales, and I would love to go there and treasure hunt sometime.

    I wish you luck on your future hunts.....Steve.
    Research and ye shall find!

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Congrats with your finds.
    Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldiver
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    That's a W&M OK. 8)

    I was shocked this week to get my W&M 1690 Tin Halfpenny from a park

    Makes you think how many other detectorist have their oldest find tucked away in a pile of grots.
    Congratulations on your 1690 W&M! Coins that old are very hard to come by in the US. You are very fortunate to live in a country so rich in history. The property where I found my coin used to belong to a Revolutionary War General. His mansion is long gone now but I found many interesting items there over the years.

    Some of my ancestors came from Wales, and I would love to go there and treasure hunt sometime.

    I wish you luck on your future hunts.....Steve.
    you sure are right in saying that something this old is rare in the states! for here it doesnt get much older than this! glad you were able to ID it! nice find!
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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowpointred

    you sure are right in saying that something this old is rare in the states! for here it doesn't get much older than this! glad you were able to ID it! nice find!
    There are a lot more old coins that have been found than most realize, I know of several experienced collectors who never post on forums or even look at them. Here are some stats relevant to this find on the scarcity or non-scarcity of the early coppers.

    Reference is from the Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4) Summer 2005 newsletter. I am a friend of the author of the article and here is an excerpt of some of his totals found in New Jersey. (Article titled: Survey of Colonial Coins Recovered in Southern New Jersey -- Part II)

    Charles II Farthing - 13 found + 1 Counterfeit
    William & Mary Halfpenny - 4 found
    Tin William & Mary Halfpenny - 1 found (Crusader take note )
    William & Mary Farthing - 1 found
    William III Halfpenny - 45 found + 1/2 of one
    William III Farthing - 5 found

    I believe all of these were found in a tri-county area of NJ by the author of the article.

    I have found 12 William III coins of which two are William & Mary coppers and I believe my son has a few also, they are out there and they did circulate here for a long time, so most are severly worn down as is Goldiver's and most everyone that I have ever found.

    I did like this post, since what was said is so true, there are dirty uncleaned or severely worn coppers out there that have been found and due to not having the tools (Internet/forums/etc) to identify or educate that many will forever be in someones find box never properly identified.

    Don
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    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Thanks, I appreciate the comments folks. Don I enjoyed your post. I would like to add that these were found in upstate New York.

    An old friend of mine from the area who hunted relics primarily had many of the old British coppers and rare state issued coppers that he used to find at French and Indian War, and Revolutionary War sites. His display case was loaded with priceless artifacts, including a sword he recovered near Lake George, it was in outstanding condition,and only missing the leather wrapping on the handle.

    Those old coins are still out there!

    Steve
    Research and ye shall find!

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    this is what i love about this site. i,m staring at the same coin.found it in kittery pt.,me.of course it was the one i learned about no cleaning .still enough detail left to identfy.sam

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    That's a cracker of a coin
    Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's raining.

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by tyre kicker
    That's a cracker of a coin
    Are you being scarcastic or are you confused with the one on the net
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    Have pleasant times finding pleasant things. 17/01/21
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by tyre kicker
    That's a cracker of a coin
    Are you being scarcastic or are you confused with the one on the net
    Just realised I am getting confused with the net one
    Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's raining.

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    Re: I Found My Oldest Coin to Date, William and Mary British Copper.......

    Quote Originally Posted by tyre kicker
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by tyre kicker
    That's a cracker of a coin
    Are you being scarcastic or are you confused with the one on the net
    Just realised I am getting confused with the net one
    now that would be a find
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    Have pleasant times finding pleasant things. 17/01/21
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

 

 

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