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A friend of mine dug this in his yard a few weeks back. He asked if I knew any experts. Can someone give me some info on it?
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****Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?****UPDATED 9/11 WITH MORE PHOTOS!****
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Th3rty7
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Looks similar too a Poplar Island type imo.
http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Poplar.html
Looks similar too a Poplar Island type imo.
http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Poplar.html
creek astronaut
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looks like an odd shaped rock to me.havent seen any points that have flat squared off sides.
looks like an odd shaped rock to me.havent seen any points that have flat squared off sides.
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That is what it appears to be. It fits right with the geography too.
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That is what it appears to be. It fits right with the geography too.
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Especially if it's weathered argellite (which is what it looks like), all I can tell you is they made stuff like this. I found a similar one, and we've had at least one other one posted here.
Especially if it's weathered argellite (which is what it looks like), all I can tell you is they made stuff like this. I found a similar one, and we've had at least one other one posted here.
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After doing some research today, I am under the impression that it is more likely an Adena Point. Here is one I saw that is almost identical:
After doing some research today, I am under the impression that it is more likely an Adena Point. Here is one I saw that is almost identical:
Th3rty7
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Re: Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?
I have to agree with you on adena, I wasnt sure adena culture was in NJ. The shoulders are more adena than poplar island, although some have clipped wings. Learning something new every day.
I have to agree with you on adena, I wasnt sure adena culture was in NJ. The shoulders are more adena than poplar island, although some have clipped wings. Learning something new every day.
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Re: Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?
Looks to be a geo fact in the shape of the mighty Adena point. Looks similiar to the material we see in caves ? My humble opinion and I would have picked it up also. If its a point it would have to have tumbled many miles to not show any worked areas.
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Looks to be a geo fact in the shape of the mighty Adena point. Looks similiar to the material we see in caves ? My humble opinion and I would have picked it up also. If its a point it would have to have tumbled many miles to not show any worked areas.
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This is a hard one. It looks like an artifact that, maybe, rolled in the surf for a long time. I can see what looks like a knapped edge from the side view the way it zigzags. How close to the beach was it found? Points that roll in the surf for a long time will look like they were sand blasted.
This is a hard one. It looks like an artifact that, maybe, rolled in the surf for a long time. I can see what looks like a knapped edge from the side view the way it zigzags. How close to the beach was it found? Points that roll in the surf for a long time will look like they were sand blasted.
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Re: Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?
It was found more than 50 miles from the ocean, but it was found in the Delaware Valley, about 5 miles from the river.
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It was found more than 50 miles from the ocean, but it was found in the Delaware Valley, about 5 miles from the river.
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Re: Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?
I still think it is a rock that got shaped by mother nature.sure it has the outline of a point,but thats about it IMO.i dont see one facet on it and in pic 2 look at the side facing the camera and you can see that it almost looks like it is flat,which makes it look like it has four or five sides/faces.sure would like to see a pic from a different angle in a hand
I still think it is a rock that got shaped by mother nature.sure it has the outline of a point,but thats about it IMO.i dont see one facet on it and in pic 2 look at the side facing the camera and you can see that it almost looks like it is flat,which makes it look like it has four or five sides/faces.sure would like to see a pic from a different angle in a hand
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Re: Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?
There is no question in my mind that you have a point, not a geofact. Unfortunately, it is made of argillite, which can be a nice stone when fresh, but very quickly deteriorates in ground conditions. Nevertheless, eroded traces of flaking scars clearly are visible on your point.
The point is too eroded to make a definitive identification, but the most likely candidate is the Poplar Island. Adenas are found sparsely in eastern PA (and I believe in NJ), but they are thinner in cross-section than the Poplar Island. In terms of shape, you point looks more to me like a Poplar Island than an Adena.
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There is no question in my mind that you have a point, not a geofact. Unfortunately, it is made of argillite, which can be a nice stone when fresh, but very quickly deteriorates in ground conditions. Nevertheless, eroded traces of flaking scars clearly are visible on your point.
The point is too eroded to make a definitive identification, but the most likely candidate is the Poplar Island. Adenas are found sparsely in eastern PA (and I believe in NJ), but they are thinner in cross-section than the Poplar Island. In terms of shape, you point looks more to me like a Poplar Island than an Adena.
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Re: ****Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?****UPDATED 9/11 WITH MORE PHOTOS!***
Welcome to the forum Christopher!
Welcome to the forum Christopher!
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Re: ****Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?****UPDATED 9/11 WITH MORE PHOTOS!***
It sure looks like it has been tumbled for some time. Hard to argue it is not some manner of head. Too bad the maker didn't have some better material.
Good stuff Maynard.
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It sure looks like it has been tumbled for some time. Hard to argue it is not some manner of head. Too bad the maker didn't have some better material.
Good stuff Maynard.
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Re: ****Adena Point or Poplar Island Point?****UPDATED 9/11 WITH MORE PHOTOS!***
After seeing a better picture. I concur it looks to be a worn point. That makes it even better. Nice rescue and find and welcome to Artifacts.
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TnMtns
After seeing a better picture. I concur it looks to be a worn point. That makes it even better. Nice rescue and find and welcome to Artifacts.
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