Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE

chong2

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Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE

k, :laughing9:, so last night im with some family memembers just relaxing and whe i go to sleep i have a dream of me finding some exotic cerimonial pieces, very finley worked. so when i wake up i mess around online, and decide shoot, i might as well go out. so i pick a spot i been eyeballin 4 some time now, and for about 2 hours nothing, some chips is all. it gets dark here early so im bummed out, beeen having a rough few months, so i start heading back . and low and behold just laying there, this amazing piece..... i was like OMG, lol, yessssssssssssssssss. my camera is broke so i used a friends , these are the best pics i could come up with for now. also, i have never in my life picked up such a nice perfected piece. the base is lightly ground, has such delicate but perfect shoulders, the serrations are nice and get micro towards the needle tip,seems to have been resharpened, it has collateral flaking , median ridged, "looks like a diamond when looking straight down it" exactly 3 1/2 inchs long. all in all its awwwwwwwww :)
Im going with Firstview on this one, maybe a Eden, both pretty rare in this area, my BEST PIECE PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOP WHOOP

Some history on this point : being Eden/Firstview, it comes from the Scottsbluff cluster=Scottsbluff, Cody,Eden,Firstview. These paleoindian people would have probaly been following big game, such as extinct bison. Some of the best information has come from bison kill sites where these tools were recovered. This particular point has all of the characteristics of a Eden/Firstview. Probaly was used as a spear or flung from a atlatl http://www.onagocag.com/atlatl.html. My personal opinion this projectile would have suporior penetrating power, size, weight thickness, it would be the perfect tool for bringing down big game. Here is a little writing on the Eden published by Noel d. Justice that i found very accurate and informative to this projectile.
" The Eden points some of the most controlled and best executed flitnapping of all paleoindian projectile point types. All edges are closely aligned and near perfect symmetry is observed on every part of the typical Eden point. Wormington's description noted resemblance to Scottsbluff but focused on traits such as a narrower blade width relative to length, parallel pressure flaking , smaller shoulders, pronounced median ridge, and a diamond shaped cross section. The shoulder/haft juncture may be marked only by the termination of laterial grinding and a very slight edge in contour. The fine pressure flaking and diamond-shaped cross section are the most prominate traits that seperate Eden from Scottsbluff. The haft element was produces with fine pressure retouch and the basal edge flaking often produces a triangular flaking pattern emanating from the basal margins to the midline. ( see in photos) .
Now why the base is clipped how it is i have no idea, but i still believe it was intentional.

One more thing, a good friend called me and told me this morning, you did not find that point , it found you.... Being at my lowest point in my life , and thinking there is no way out or back up, God/Someone knows my love of archaeology and i was brought to it. This piece represents a moment in my life when i thought i would never get up, after finding this, i know there are good things out there and hope is still possible. In all honesty i believe this is going to be a turning point for the better in my life:) I was supposed to start school for archi this semester, but some very dramatic changes in my life has forced me to put school on hold. I read and study as much as i can on my free time of the subject, its absolutly amazing.

If anyone has any other info they would like to cover on the point type/history, feel free to fill me/us in. Thanks
Chong
 

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trikikiwi

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

A work of Art

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Blindpig, good idea, i put some good info up on my first posting, thanks tn, i hear more people find Folsoms in the area than these, so pretty rare i shall figure. and newt, it was a surface find.
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Chong
Thanks for the lesson.Fits that puppy to a Tee. Glad it came to you and lifted you up when you needed it. Somebody was smilin down on you for sure. Now if I could just find those lost gold bars !!!! :icon_sunny:
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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Sweet, Congrats on the Banner. John
 

Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

That's an incredible piece! WOW!
I agree with your feeling that this find came at the right time after a long rocky road. I'm sure that when you found this, all of your problems fade away in that moment and you are left holding an amazing tool that represents a time when all there was to life was hunting, gathering, and finding shelter. The more complicated this world gets, the more I drift off back in time, wishing that life was more simpler.
What a nicely worked piece.
Congratulations!
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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

That is one extremely nice find. Looks pretty rare.
WTG!!!
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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Wow! That is the best piece I have seen found in quite a while. Congrats!!
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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Wow!!!! Brother.... you have the find of a lifetime and it came at the right time according to you. There are no accidents my friend. Things happen for a reason and you are right to see this as a turning point. Hold on...... things are looking up!!!! Always lean forward :)
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

What a beautiful find !! :hello2:

Congratulations ! :notworthy:

A question to the age: Would about 2500 - 2000 BC be right ?
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Chong that is a fantastic Firstview!!! Congrats on a fantastic find!! :icon_thumleft: I am curious if a later culture found it and altered it? The base clipping is unlike any Firstview I have ever seen. The serrations on top also? It looks like it was done and never used. A very curious piece you have there. Many mysteries to this Cody Complex piece. You should definitely have it looked at for study purposes and documentation. As I said I have never seen a Firstview like that. No doubt a Firstview just altered unlike any other. Congrats man, I would be at that spot every day searching it out now...........Check out these links, at that size and if that is how it was made it is easily a $3000 to $5000 point. I would call that a Banner day if there ever was one!!! http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Firstview.html

http://www.arrowheads.com/don/paleo.htm

Post your next find as you will undoubtedly find another from that area!!!............GTP
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

TheDane said:
What a beautiful find !! :hello2:

Congratulations ! :notworthy:

A question to the age: Would about 2500 - 2000 BC be right ?

Age is early archaic and dates from 7500bc to 8500bc. It was masterfully crafted by the Cody Complex Culture. A highly desirable piece for any collector!!! A great find!.......Hope this helps.............GTP....
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Good Lord what a beauty!! I have never seen one quite like that one, looks like you got yourself a museum grade piece for sure, WOW!

Big congratulations! :icon_thumleft:
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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Very, very nice. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright: :hello2:

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Fantastic find. It would have made my year also.
 

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Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

Whooo Hooo!!!

Wow Chong!! Man what a find. A well deserved banner. That piece is made so nice.That indian sure could knap.

A real masterpiece!!

Congrats to you!!


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