Jan 09, 2013, 06:32 PM
Whatever bro.. 100 feet from the beach is nothing in a big storm. Remember that was attached to wood that was floating at the time. A couple feet down is not uncommon at all. I'm from the "treasure coast" in Florida... I know what I'm saying. Make it whatever you want. It's probably off limits Partly because it's a shipwreck site.
Last edited by GatorBoy; Jan 09, 2013 at 06:47 PM.
Jan 09, 2013, 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by jamey
Jan 09, 2013, 06:48 PM
Here's a thought.... put salt on it and let it sit out in the Sun. it should turn to gold.
Just kidding with you man.. good luck.
Jan 09, 2013, 08:04 PM
Until proved otherwise i'll regard these artifacts non-indian . The spike piece looks more modern than ancient and dose'nt look related to copper culture - to me anyway.
Jan 10, 2013, 01:00 PM
the spike was not with the copper, but it is old and is hand pounded, my guess 1700's.
Originally Posted by wells
Jan 10, 2013, 01:05 PM
Last edited by hmmm; Jan 10, 2013 at 01:07 PM.
Jan 10, 2013, 01:16 PM
Go ahead and believe you have Native American body armor. If you don't want to use logic I'm done with this conversation. Me stating that I am from the Treasure Coast is me trying to tell you there are thousands of shipwrecks just minutes from my house up and down the East Coast of Florida. I have seen what you have there many many times. If you would rather picture a Native American Running around in copper sheeting More power to you. You would do very little laughing If you actually did some shipwreck research. You obviously have little understanding. Furthermore... one of the first things shipwreck survivors did was salvage as much as they could from the wreck including wood and metal objects that could be used to build a shelter and headed in away from the shoreline. Shipwreck items have been found a very long way from the wreck site. I'm also willing to bet the shoreline has changed quite a bit from the time of that wreck.
Last edited by GatorBoy; Jan 10, 2013 at 01:21 PM.
Jan 10, 2013, 01:21 PM
you clearly have ship son the brain, so this works for me.
Originally Posted by GatorBoy
Jan 10, 2013, 02:25 PM
Just like the sheathing.
Originally Posted by hmmm
Jan 10, 2013, 02:39 PM
Jan 10, 2013, 03:01 PM
In defense of HMMM....I know the type of beaches and terrain he is talking about. His beaches are not sandy but rocky and the trees come right down to the edge of the beach. 100 feet back, where HMMM is also means steep slope and 30 foot vertical embankments. These islands don't get tidal surges they way the Gulf does. These are smaller steeper islands than Florida and storms break around them not over them.
like I said before....woven cedar....ships spike hand pounded into a blade....and coveted ships copper sheathing hidden for later. You might be into a burial site too as it sounds like your island may not have been a village site. Is this a Cowichan...Kwakiutl....Gwa'sala?...do you know the tribal affiliation?...that could help.
Jan 10, 2013, 05:58 PM
Here are items from the wreck of the SS Atlantic recovered from the island of Saint Paul. in Nova Scotia. the SS Atlantic was an old ship when she went down in 1873. Take a close look at the cross re covered with these items. It matches yours to a T. Yours also happens to have the stone...which is rose cut amethyst... a Hallmark of the 19th century.
Last edited by GatorBoy; Jan 13, 2013 at 12:00 PM.
Jan 10, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jan 10, 2013, 06:26 PM
Glad I could help. Like you said at the opening of this thread...." possibly connected to a seafaring people"
Jan 10, 2013, 07:00 PM
I live on the east coast and recently found some pictures of the beaches near my house taken in 1913. There are areas in these photos where there is literally 100 ft. of land now that wasn't there 100 years ago. I almost couldn't believe it, but the photos don't lie. I showed them to a guy I know who has property near where they were taken and he told me he's been gaining about 1' of land per year since he's owned it.
Originally Posted by hmmm
Growing up here, in a fishing/shipping community I have seen plenty of pieces of copper exactly like yours sitting in peoples houses or in old fishing shacks. I have a friend who is a shipwreck hunter and he has pieces exactly like yours.
One last thing, when I was a kid, I had a 13 foot scalloping skiff with a small Johnson outboard on it. Hurricane Gloria, which was a fairly minor hurricane, hit and my boat ended up about 40 feet into the brush on the side of the pond where I kept it. This wasn't even on the ocean but in a sheltered cove on a pond. My dad had to get a couple friends and use rollers to get it back in the water. I have no doubt that a serious storm could move just about anything 100ft.
It's still a very cool find but I have to agree that it's from a ship.
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