Looking for information [3 Different artifacts]

[alowry236]

I have 3 different artifacts that were found by my Aunts friend when they were younger he found them while digging by a river in Illinois. He kept on to them and left them with my Aunt and she has had them for years and while cleaning through old storeage things I've stumbled upon them and want to know more about what I've found. Each of them weigh a good amount of weight a couple pounds plus. Also I have the top of the other guys head as well. [Pictures are webcam quality, tried to take good angles.]

 

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[Rawhide]

Its a sex stone, lol. Just kidding. I have found carvings that don't seem to fit. What I call large head figures. My guess is it may be from the Toltec or Olmec period. I love the art. There is some theorys out there I wont repeat here. But those large head are every where here where I live.

 

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[alowry236]

I have the top of the ones head, I will post pictures when i get around to it.

 

[Twitch]

alowery - the Greater St Louis Archeaological Society (GSLAS) may be able to help you as well. I was a member for a couple of years and the folks there are pretty nice and helpful. They meet out in Bridgeton by the St Louis airport. I suspect most people will tell you they're not prehistoric artifacts, just as a warning in case you haven't already experienced it.

Twitch

 

[ldinglehopper]

Very cool. I am utterly fascinated with your find. I live right by joliet and its cool to think something like that was out there.

 

[larson1951]

Very cool. I am utterly fascinated with your find. I live right by joliet and its cool to think something like that was out there.

hey hey welcome to the tnet

larson1951

 

[GatorBoy]

I wonder why they dug 7-10 feet down in a riverbed to begin with.
Seems it would have filled with water before that..interesting items.

 

[monsterrack]

I may be way off but all but the first one looks to be Olmec, they came before the Mayans

 

[rock]

Some actually look African to me.

 

[scotto]

This is something I wrote a while ago, this was in Northern Illinois. A true story, and told as how I remember it. They looked similar to the ones in the original post here, but more "oval" with no protruding parts to them.
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If I only had a time machine....

Back when I was around 10 years old or so, my cousin Matt and I were at his place for the day. It was a nice summer day and we were out by the pasture, probably making plans to build a fort of some kind. We were sitting by this huge old oak tree that was dying, and we were prying with some sticks into the ground at the base of it.

Out comes this weird little "statue" of some kind, approx. 7 inches tall, with a flat bottom and rounded top - in the image of a person. We were shocked and kept digging. Four more of these come out for a total of five, all made similar but a little different. All were possibly made by the same artisan but of different people. It was just so shocking that we'd happen to pop them out right there, it kind of freaked us out a little. I wanted to bring them back to his house but he didn't want to, he was afraid we'd get into trouble for some reason. I wanted to bring one of them back to ask his dad what he thought, but it was getting late and we reburied them and decided we'd ask another day.

It was all I could think about for days, and the next weekend my mom took me back over there. During that time, Matt's dad had taken a large tractor and graded the area, pushing the large dead trees into a huge pit that was used as a dump. The ground near the oak tree where our statues were, was graded down about four feet. I was very depressed about it. To this day they must still be there somewhere, whether buried 20 feet deep in the dump itself or spread in the surrounding dirt.

I have discussed this with Matt, he remembers "something" about this - but not much. He was around 8 years old at the time, and this was well over 35 years ago.

 

[Tnmountains]

My neighbor was an art teacher at a middle school and the kids found several statues in a ditch years ago. He was unable to acquire them. Later on a fed ex complex went in right beside there and they found hundreds of Mississipian graves with beautiful offerings. The dozed and covered it up and put the Fed Ex center on top of it. No new info to be learned. They had 2 foot swords buried with high ranking women. Amazing things.
They were becoming more and more like the aztecs and Mayans in the south east with burial mounds and art and sacrifices and glyphs of beheadings. I would not rule out any abstract statue from that era.
The only person I know that might be able to help would have been Jousha Reems as he has studied and handled both cultures.

 

[mcb66]

The remind me of some Hopewell stuff I've seen. Also two of them look to have the side profile of a male apendage. How weird is that!

 

[tomclark]

patina, patina, patina!

 

[GatorBoy]

Right

 

[SemperFind]

Check out Burrows Cave on Google, and read up on it.