Hardaway-Dalton?

[Pancake]

Went out hunting after work today. Found the nice little Rossville on the right and then a type that I hadn't found before. The tip is broken but it's still a pretty cool point. Looking in Boudreau's "A New England Typology.." it appears closest to a Hardaway-Dalton. Any thoughts? Found near the coast in Massachusetts.

 

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[Jonzer]

Sweet. Love the Daltons....

 

[bsit1361]

If that's ground then I would skip past hardaway ad go right to dalton. I'm not familiar with the point types in your area though.

 

[SCrocks]

Do believe they are up that way but very rare for the area. Does have the look of one.

 

[SCrocks]

One from S.C.

 

[Charl]

As Boudreau states, the Dalton tradition has yet to be demonstrated in New England. Our Hardaway Dalton points bear only a slight resemblance to Hardaway Daltons from their home region well south of New England. The broken triangle Pancake found does resemble what we type as New England Hardaway-Dalton. This quartz triangle was confirmed by Beaudreau as a Hardaway-Dalton, New England variation. Strongly erose, ground base and lower lateral edges, and a very deep concave base.

 

[Charl]

Pancake, these 3 points were confirmed by Beaudreau as New England Hardaway-Daltons.

flute-like basal thinning on the quartz example:

 

[NC field hunter]

I'm not sure about this one. Is this one?

 

[Pancake]

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm still not 100% sure of the type. I need to show it to a few locals who have been at it for much longer than me.

 

[Montgomery]

Beautiful pieces and an intriguing puzzle. Sure looks like a Dalton-type point. To me, the basal thinning is especially interesting!

Kindest regards,

Monty

 

[Charl]

Let us know if you get other opinions, Pancake. I think it is an early triangle. It's difficult to place it anywhere other then the New England variant of Hardaway-Dalton. The base should be ground. Before he passed unexpectedly, Jeff sent me the Hardaway-Dalton page from the expanded, revised edition of his typology, which hasn't been published. As well as a metric comparison between that triangular style and Snappits and Squibnockets. You have a narrow triangle with a markedly concave base. Can't see if it's erose. I have several others as well, from a site that yielded a Hardaway Side Notch. Never had a chance to run those by Jeff, but that's not a Woodland triangle, and the base is too deep for much else other then Hardaway-Dalton.

 

[Pancake]

I showed it to a guy I know who has been collecting here for years and he said Hardaway-Dalton the second I handed it to him. I'm going to leave it in my truck as there are a couple guys I know who have been collecting here for 50-60 years and I'll show it to them the next time I run into them.

I would love to read any of the updated edition of his Typology. Do you know if there are any plans to publish it?

 

[larson1951]

that is looking like hard to work type material.........
...........and i must say they did a good job with it

larson1951