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    Anyone know what this one is...Scottsbluff?

    This was my grandfathers and I believe it was found in Iowa
    It has some stem edge and base grinding however the entire stem and base does not appear to be ground
    I can see some parallel flaking and random flaking
    Base has been thinned on one side (can be seen in picture 4)
    2 1/2 inches long
    1 inch wide

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    It does look like a Scottsbluff I overall to me. Overstreet says: Parallel to convex sides and weak shoulders. The stem is parallel sided to expanding. The hafting area is ground. Most examples have horizontal to oblique parallel flaking and are of high quality and thinness. Also, it reminds me of a Rice Side-Notched that normally has shallow notches and weak shoulders (Overstreet ID Key: Basal form). I'm not 100% sure which one to tell you to go with. Maybe this will give you a better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockheadhunter421 View Post
    It does look like a Scottsbluff I overall to me. Overstreet says: Parallel to convex sides and weak shoulders. The stem is parallel sided to expanding. The hafting area is ground. Most examples have horizontal to oblique parallel flaking and are of high quality and thinness. Also, it reminds me of a Rice Side-Notched that normally has shallow notches and weak shoulders (Overstreet ID Key: Basal form). I'm not 100% sure which one to tell you to go with. Maybe this will give you a better idea.
    Thanks rockheadhunter421. I appreciate your input and I will look up the Rice-Notched! I wasn't sure about Scottsbluff because the base is kind of thick and like you said, I'm not sure if the quality and thinness are there on this one.

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    That's a Scotty
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    Yea, typing by photos is tough for me sometimes. I really couldn't see what the flaking was for sure so I wanted to throw out that other possibility. I've had a Rice Side-Notched before and it was actually thin and the flaking was not oblique parallel like the Scottsbluff. It was more random/parallel like a late archaic to woodland period style flaking. The base was ground and the notches were ground for hafting. That is the best description that I can provide right now.
    Last edited by rockheadhunter421; Apr 15, 2014 at 06:52 PM.
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    It is hard for me to see the flaking and I'm holding it! Maybe I should get new reading glasses. It almost looks like chevron flaking with a horizontal transverse.
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    There is a Scottsbluff type 1 and a ScottsBluff type II.. some of them exhibit random flaking also.
    It was believed to be found in Iowa.. You need to take that into account when considering it to possibly be a rice that looks like a Scottsbluff
    Last edited by GatorBoy; Apr 15, 2014 at 07:21 PM.

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    That's a scottsbluff point nice find !!!!

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    It's not a Scottsbluff. It's a Steuben point (terminal Hopewell) that's made of heat-treated Burlington chert. Steuben are very similar to Rice, but have a different distribution range. Rice are found down here in the SW Ozarks, where Steuben are found in eastern MO, Iowa and Illinois.
    Last edited by Neanderthal; Apr 15, 2014 at 09:07 PM.

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    Well there's your answer... I should have seen the fact it was he treated... I'll go back to Florida now bye bye

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    I stand corrected good call Neanderthal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    It's not a Scottsbluff. It's a Steuben point (terminal Hopewell) that's made of heat-treated Burlington chert. Steuben are very similar to Rice, but have a different distribution range. Rice are found down here in the SW Ozarks, where Steuben are found in eastern MO, Iowa and Illinois.
    Thank you for your help Neanderthal, I really appreciate it! I would like to ask you or anyone else how I can tell if a lithic has been heat treated? I have tried researching online and am not coming up with much.

    Thanks again everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by intensecrasher View Post
    Thank you for your help Neanderthal, I really appreciate it! I would like to ask you or anyone else how I can tell if a lithic has been heat treated? I have tried researching online and am not coming up with much.

    Thanks again everyone!
    Chert will change colors I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockheadhunter421 View Post
    Chert will change colors I think.
    Yes it will if it is heat treated
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    OK perfect! Again, thanks to everyone!

 

 
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