First paleo grave goods maybe?

[Tnmountains]

Thought this was interesting as we do not know much of burial practices from this time frame.


Scientists Find Ice Age Babies Buried in Alaskan Grave - NBC News

 

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[Charl]

Thanks for the heads up on the discovery. There was a link after the story to a photo of the projectile points from the burial and more info on the find....

Archeologists discover remains of Ice Age infants in Alaska

 

[Tnmountains]

Is this the first evidence or grave goods in a Paleo burial? Paleo burial does not even sound right.

 

[stefen]

In reality, it may be evidence of a paleo-abortion clinic...

The archeologists amplified into a religious ceremonial feat...

 

[Charl]

Is this the first evidence or grave goods in a Paleo burial? Paleo burial does not even sound right.

No, this site from Montana is older, Clovis era, and it had grave goods....

Anzick Clovis Site (Montana, USA)

"Buried deeply beneath a talus deposit, the site was likely part of an ancient collapsed rockshelter. Overlying deposits contained a profusion of bison bones, possibly representing a buffalo jump, where animals were stampeded off a cliff and then butchered. The Anzick burial was discovered in 1969 by two construction workers, who collected human remains from two individuals and approximately 90 stone tools, including eight complete fluted Clovis projectile points, 70 large bifaces and at least six complete and partial atlatl foreshafts made from mammal bones. The finders reported that all of the objects were coated in a thick layer of red ocher, a common burial practice for Clovis and other Pleistocene hunter-gatherers."

Another description with grave goods photo....

http://westerndigs.org/genome-of-only-clovis-era-skeleton-reveals-origins-of-native-americans/

And here is another Paleo burial with grave goods from the Horn Shelter site, Texas:

http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/horn/burials.html

 

[Charl]

In reality, it may be evidence of a paleo-abortion clinic...

The archeologists amplified into a religious ceremonial feat...

Maybe not. The cremated three year old was buried just above them and at the same time.....

 

[Tnmountains]

Thanks for all the links. It is interesting that they used grave goods for infants. Kinda shows they were thinking of an after life and not just a burial with someones favorite tools. I am sure at that time each group had their own beleifs. We learn every day.
I wonder why they are not crediting the two sites you posted?

 

[Tony in SC]

My Great Grand Parents,(on both sides), were Native American. They always told me that their elders believed that The Great Spirit was their father and the earth was their mother. Really the same thing that the Bible says. When you die your body goes to your mother,earth, and your spirit goes to your father, The Great Spirit. That would explain the tools for the journey in the graves. Just my thoughts. Tony

Thanks for all the links. It is interesting that they used grave goods for infants. Kinda shows they were thinking of an after life and not just a burial with someones favorite tools. I am sure at that time each group had their own beleifs. We learn every day.
I wonder why they are not crediting the two sites you posted?

 

[creekhunter]

Some great links, thanks!

 

[yakker]

Excellent education- links, explanations... really great. Thanks so much! Yakker

 

[joshuaream]

No, this site from Montana is older, Clovis era, and it had grave goods....

Anzick Clovis Site (Montana, USA)

I had a nice detailed response typed out, but my internet blinked and it was lost... Long and short of the response is that these are probably as old, and perhaps older than Clovis.

The articles that I have seen haven't spelled out the 11,500 BP date yet (calibrated, regular, RCYBP, standard deviation, etc. to know if we are comparing apples to apples) but Anzick dates to 11,040 RCYBP. Depending on what numbers they are using, it's as probably just as old or older than Anzick.

For what it's worth, the points look like Mesa/Sluiceway points. There is a lot of detail on them on Tony Baker's website (ele.net) or on the From Mesa to Monteverde paper on his site.

Joshua

 

[GatorBoy]

Good stuff

 

[Charl]

Thanks, Joshua. Here's the paper you mentioned, should anyone be interested. Agree, the points look like Mesa points....

From Mesa to Monte Verde