Age Comparison

[flintlock]

Snyder Point vs. 3/4 Slant Grooved Stone Axe

Reason I ask is both were found a stones throw away from each other on opposite sides of the creek. Trying to figure out if these are from the same period for my own personal records.

Snyder Point- maybe late archaic to Woodland period 2500-1500 B.P.

3/4 Slant Grooved Stone Axe- Archaic? I've been given a wide date range but can it be narrowed down.

 

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[jmaschal]

Can't give you an age but great finds- killer axe! Thanks for sharing!

 

[unclemac]

truly proximity means nothing...you can find items separated by thousands of years literally next to each other. All kinds of things can happen to disturb context or redistribute artifacts.

 

[monsterrack]

Real nice finds From what I see from the mark on the axe, you are on farm land so the plow has moved everything around. Only digging will you be able to say within the same time period, because they are in the same strata when you find an item. Then you have to be below the farming line of depth.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I saw a Clovis Point found right in the middle of a very large Ft Ancient Village site. Also saw a killer Thebes comes from there. Just means the site was used for thousands of years.

 

[CHUDs]

Is it possible that the Natives found old points, as we do, and sometimes reused them? Or possibly imitated older styles? This would create some confusion in periodic dating. Just a thought.

 

[welsbury]

Is it possible that the Natives found old points, as we do, and sometimes reused them? Or possibly imitated older styles? This would create some confusion in periodic dating. Just a thought.

CHUD they sure did find and keep older points. One example is north of you, around K-Falls, the Nightfire Island site,where a find of older points was cached in a group. This site was not as old as the cached points. don't know if they used them but they sure picked them up.

 

[CHUDs]

Cool to know...I'm going to be in that area in about a month to go fly fishing. The thought crossed my mind that I might be able catch some steelhead and rainbows, find some morels and if I'm really lucky...maybe a point! Of course I likely just jinxed that!

 

[Robot]

Found within a "Stones Throw"



Similar to yours...These students found the same items together on their property.

Right In Our Own Backyard

 

[ptsofnc]

truly proximity means nothing...you can find items separated by thousands of years literally next to each other. All kinds of things can happen to disturb context or redistribute artifacts.

Also the resources found in an area or site that were found useful to very early people (clovis or even earlier) were probably still attractive to much later people, and so you can often find a wide age of artifacts. Those are two very nice finds!

 

[rock]

I think the grooved ax was Archaic period. In Woodland periods and Mississippian they used Celts. If that is wrong I dont mind being corrected. Nice pieces

 

[Muddyhandz]

I remember being told by archaeologists/collectors that they don't get too excited when they find hammers as they're almost impossible to date.
Sure, one could do a carbon test but that's beyond their budgets as it's too expensive.
The last one I found was at a late 19th/early 20th century site in the middle of a cultivated field that contained no flakings, core pieces, NADA!
This was lying right on top of the broken glass and pottery, right in the middle of the house site.....



When I picked it up, I immediately imagined it being used as a door stop for the farm house and could have been picked up anywhere.
I guess if it's dug insitu with other artifacts in undisturbed soil, one could give it a date.
Nice finds!
Dave.

 

[unclemac]

yes a lot of those big heavy stones were used as door stops on farms....true with all my aunts and uncles, parents and grandparents.

 

[jamey]

it would be cool if you had some forensic friends,and they found just one fiber that only grew 7000 years ago,or the ones who study how long something was exposed to sunlight,really just wanted to say that you have two really cool artifacts.