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    Hammer/Grinding stone?

    Found this in a big rock pile that was pushed by a backhoe. Donít think the dings are from machinery though. Stone is very round and worn smooth. Opinions? Thanks
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    I would definitely explore that rock pile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptsofnc View Post
    I would definitely explore that rock pile.
    you mean I got something!? Finally!! Tell me more pleaseee

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    Maybe. Doesn't seem to have a lot of use wear...but maybe a little. But definitely has the shape of hammer stones I find. The ones I find do have edges with obvious battering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptsofnc View Post
    Maybe. Doesn't seem to have a lot of use wear...but maybe a little. But definitely has the shape of hammer stones I find. The ones I find do have edges with obvious battering.
    Itís not quite spherical itís more flattened.. But symmetrical. What caught my eye was the smooth texture compared to the surrounding rocks.

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    For an item to be an artifact it has to be shaped or worked by man. It will have pecking or polishing and there is usually no doubt. You rock shows none of that but it is a nice shape. They could have used it as a natural rock but unless you find it in context with artifacts you will never know. Rocks from all over are different and they used what was available. Here are two in various stages of work and pecking found with other artifacts. Hope this helps.

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    Hammer/Grinding stone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tnmountains View Post
    For an item to be an artifact it has to be shaped or worked by man. It will have pecking or polishing and there is usually no doubt. You rock shows none of that but it is a nice shape. They could have used it as a natural rock but unless you find it in context with artifacts you will never know. Rocks from all over are different and they used what was available. Here are two in various stages of work and pecking found with other artifacts. Hope this helps.

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    You donít think this rock displays any pecking or wear? I tried to show detail by posting it in three different kinds of light..I know what youíre saying, but looking at your examples I donít think the textures are too far off

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    Did you find any flint/chert debitage around that rock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tnmountains View Post
    Did you find any flint/chert debitage around that rock?
    Thatís what kind of sucks about this is it was mixed with dirt and it was obviously a large pile of everything that was displaced from idk where.. assuming they were clearing the surrounding field of debris and I found the dump pile. I did find a flake of slate in the same pile but this was the only significant find. I plan to go back and look more, things could be buried. This rock/dirt pile was about 10í high and wider than it was tall .. to give you an idea. I climbed it to grab this.
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    I think the context is everything for something like this ..... if I found that identical rock in the fields where I find points than I wouldnít think twice about it being an artifact but if I found the same stone in a creek or a long the river I prob would have just discarded it as natural . From the pics it does look like itís been pecked or used to crush things but very hard to verify without holding it and I have found some very similar to that maybe even same material also I have a few that do not have polish. Iíll try and find the one I was talking about and take some pics . I donít have nearly as much knowledge as some people on here so see what some of the others with much more experience than me say . But in either case keep at it you will find a nice one soon enough
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    If someone/something was chasing me I would pick that there stone to throw at said predator. Who knows? Nice river cobble in my mind and you could probably have a geologist tell you where the outcropping is. Tnmountains, can you show us some more pictures? The one in the background shows more usage than the foreground. I'm not saying it isn't just want to learn

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    Iím confused. So do you guys rule this an artifact or not? lol

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    Not trying to be vague and confuse you here. Sometimes you just cannot know with certainty and be sure. But I (if it were me) would still explore that rock pile and the surrounding area if this stone CAME FROM THIS GENERAL AREA. If it is a site, you should see/find evidence that it is with other findings. Good luck to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandermore91 View Post
    I’m confused. So do you guys rule this an artifact or not? lol
    I really see nothing in your picture that says artifact, with out some kind of signs of being used by man I would say natural rock, I found many round stones like that in Missouri.
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    Your rock is a glacial cobble. In the 5th photo down, the skin or cortex is broken in a few small spots. I won't say it's absolutely impossible that someone could not have picked it up and hammered it once, but I will go with the consensus opinion, and instead show you some glacial cobbles that were used as hammerstones. Each of these were found in the same corn field, and every one shows battering wear at both ends of the cobbles, though I will just show the wear at one end. Otherwise, the skin or cortex is smooth and unaltered. These are typical examples of glacial cobbles of a suitable shape, and they are usually battered at both ends of the cobble.


    After that, I'm going to make a suggestion, because, as you'll see, I think your making a mistake in focus that is very typical for beginners. I'll do that in another comment.....

    OK, here is a large quartzite glacial cobble hammerstone, battered at both ends:

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    Battering on one end:

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    Here is another quartzite hammerstone, as seen when found, and battering seen on one end when picked up:

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    A smaller quartzite glacial cobble, and showing battering on one end. Remember, these are all typical in showing battering at both ends:

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    A friend found this one in the same field. It's a sandstone cobble, and the surface in first photo shows a sandstone surface that has experienced grinding. Sandstone was often used as a grinding stone, because, after all, it's a kind of natural sandpaper:

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