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    Native American artifact with right angle.

    I found this in north Georgia. I found two other examples on this forum which led me to believe it is some type of tool.

    I'm on my phone so I can't load pictures. Here's a link to my post on facebook:


    Any idea?

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    Here is a direct link to the post that has two similar objects:

    Cape Cod Indian Stone Tools arrowheads?
    Last edited by molgreg; Apr 15, 2018 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Opened them up so others wouldn't have to jump over to Facebook

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    Just looks like a natural rock
    I would rather see an authentic broken scraper posted than a G-10 Artifake!

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    Personally I think it is just a rock. There is nothing in the pics that looks altered by man. JMHO.

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    Sorry, but there is no evidence whatsoever of that stone ever being altered or utilized by man. It is 100% natural.
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    It looks awfully similar to these two...

  6. #6
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    Those two also look natural about the only reason I could see anybody keeping them is if they are made from soapstone. You can’t always go off google images there’s a lot of junk people post and claim it’s a rare artifact and than even sell the same thing on eBay and take advantage of people.
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    I would rather see an authentic broken scraper posted than a G-10 Artifake!

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    It was a rock that had a crack. Then the rock broke at a 90° angle to the first crack a few inches in, giving you the 90° corner. Gary

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    That picture is from this forum. That's how I found this place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molgreg View Post
    That picture is from this forum. That's how I found this place.
    Neither of those are artifacts either and were formed just as yours was and as Gary explained above.
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    the one thing you should ask yourself is..if it was a tool, what was it used for? It should have an obvious purpose. After you answer that ask...does it show any signs of wear? Old time tools have new day counter parts that function the same.
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    I believe it's a broken or perhaps unfinished (possibly because it broke in the process) spear-head or similar projectile/tool. A brief google search will turn up thousands of images of almost identical objects. Not to mention the fact that I have found several myself in suburban environments, sometimes while not even looking for artifacts. some have clear tool marks around the highly unnatural right angle fashioned in the stone. So unless these projectile shaped rocks are being formed in identical fashion all over the world by some fascinating process through which nature produces its only known object to be found in various locations and of varying materials and size but the exact same specific dimensions and overall shape....I'm gonna have to cast my vote for 'Artifact' and say, "good find, Sir!"...well, maybe not 'good' find, but how about "an event qualified by its outcome to be labeled as a mediocre but still legitimate archaeological find"....has a nice ring to it.

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    the right angle is a natural fracture for certain types of stone, the fact that you are seeing them all over suggests that it is not only natural but common. this particular stone is not of a type to be used for projectile points.

    ....it is not an effigy either...don't go there please
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    Quote Originally Posted by a tent View Post
    I believe it's a broken or perhaps unfinished (possibly because it broke in the process) spear-head or similar projectile/tool. A brief google search will turn up thousands of images of almost identical objects. Not to mention the fact that I have found several myself in suburban environments, sometimes while not even looking for artifacts. some have clear tool marks around the highly unnatural right angle fashioned in the stone. So unless these projectile shaped rocks are being formed in identical fashion all over the world by some fascinating process through which nature produces its only known object to be found in various locations and of varying materials and size but the exact same specific dimensions and overall shape....I'm gonna have to cast my vote for 'Artifact' and say, "good find, Sir!"...well, maybe not 'good' find, but how about "an event qualified by its outcome to be labeled as a mediocre but still legitimate archaeological find"....has a nice ring to it.
    First, welcome aboard. We are happy to have you with us.

    Second, how long have you collected or studied American artifacts? Just curious because you are completely wrong on your assertion that is any type of artifact and it is definitely not any type of "Spearhead". I suggest you do some research on this site and others to see what an actual artifact or Point would look like and how they are manufactured.

    You should also maybe research some geology sites to see that fracturing like that is very common among certain types of rock.

    Bottom line is, that is not, has never been, and in no way whatsoever resembles any known artifacts.
    Last edited by The Grim Reaper; Apr 16, 2018 at 01:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a tent View Post
    I believe it's a broken or perhaps unfinished (possibly because it broke in the process) spear-head or similar projectile/tool. A brief google search will turn up thousands of images of almost identical objects. Not to mention the fact that I have found several myself in suburban environments, sometimes while not even looking for artifacts. some have clear tool marks around the highly unnatural right angle fashioned in the stone. So unless these projectile shaped rocks are being formed in identical fashion all over the world by some fascinating process through which nature produces its only known object to be found in various locations and of varying materials and size but the exact same specific dimensions and overall shape....I'm gonna have to cast my vote for 'Artifact' and say, "good find, Sir!"...well, maybe not 'good' find, but how about "an event qualified by its outcome to be labeled as a mediocre but still legitimate archaeological find"....has a nice ring to it.
    I would second what Grim had to say. First, welcome to this forum. You are certainly entitled to any opinion you would like to hold to or entertain. However, it's clear to experienced collectors that in this instance you are mistaken, and it does sound like it's due to a lack of adequate experience with real artifacts. You have come to a good place to learn, however.

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    Sorry but it is a natural rock not an artifact.
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