🥇 BANNER Discoil kind of day.

[GaRebel1861]

I went back out to the historic Native American site today that I've been metal detecting after finding the tomahawk or trade axe yesterday. (I posted the axe on "Today's Finds yesterday) Today, was shotgun shell and beer can day and I wasn't really finding too much of what I was looking for. Close to the end of the hunt, I was walking along in the field and spotted what I thought at first was a 4" PVC pipe cap laying about 75 feet away. Thinking that it was odd for a pipe cap to be out in the middle of no where, I walked closer and found this discoal laying out in the sun in plain view. I'm sure glad that I checked it! It's going to clean up well and has itself a new home in the display cabinet.

 

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[joshuaream]

These games, much like some of the ball games played in Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America and into South America were probably pretty significant events. From carved shell gorgets and a couple of pipes from Spiro and Cahokia we know that at least sometimes players were heavily adorned in displays of wealth and body art.

For players of the game, life, death and wealth were certainly on the table. For the big ceremonial centers (Cahokia, Etowah, Spiro, etc.) they likely had multiple purposes. The first theory is that games like these probably resolved a lot of issues at the local level and helped keep the masses happy (a bit like watching gladiators and other big games in the Coliseum kept the Romans entertained.) The other theory is that these games helped provide structure for interaction between big population centers. The big mound groups on the map below were probably friendly at times, and perhaps hostile at other times. Structured games like this probably had a role in diplomacy between the groups, like they did with the Mayans down in Mesoamerica, or like the Olympics and other international exhibition games do now a days.

 

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[fyrffytr1]

What is the difference between the biscuit discoidal that GaReb1861 found and the dished ones? Were they both used in the same way?

 

[GaRebel1861]

What is the difference between the biscuit discoidal that GaReb1861 found and the dished ones? Were they both used in the same way?

I believe that it was the same game but different styles of a discoil. I've seen others that were found here locally (Same County) that were much smaller. There was another one found at this same site back in the mid 1980s that was about the size of a half dollar and was made from green stone. The guy that found it still has it in his collection. I'll see if I can get a picture of it for you to see.

 

[wayfas4u]

Congrats my friend!!! Glad you found it. You are becoming a banner magnet you know? Glad you called and told me about it

 

[fyrffytr1]

Congrats on the banner. I would rather have your luck than all the skill in the world!

 

[dognose]

thats a pretty sweet find.

How close to a water source is the location?

 

[GaRebel1861]

thats a pretty sweet find.

How close to a water source is the location?

About 120 yards.

 

[BillA]

would observe that "discoidal" is an adjective related to the shape, not the use
I will post a different form in the Central American section.

Bill

 

[GaRebel1861]

I’ll be looking forward to seeing your post! Thanks.

 

[gilmerman]

Some here in North Ga. call discoids biscuits. I have found several discoids but none as thick or as good material. That is an artifact to treasure. Thanks for its display for us.

 

[rock]

Couldnt think of a better person to find that beauty, congrats

 

[Huntster54]

Like in all tribes, I would also submit that the youngsters had their own smaller versions to play with to mimic the adults as not everything was totally ceremonial and political with their games. Children will be children.

Excellent and interesting find.

 

[Tnmountains]

Here is the axe head that I found yesterday and posted in case you didn't see it.

You done any restoration on that axe yet? Be sure to post and give me a heads up. Would like to see it.

 

[narofvod]

Very cool find. I'm learning a lot on here about artifacts - never knew what a Discoidal was until now. I think I have one - not found by me but passed to me from an Uncle who passed. We always figured it was something Native American. Would it be appropriate for me to post a picture of it here even though I did not find it?

 

[Relicgrubber]

You could start it's own thread. I'd like to see it!

 

[GaRebel1861]

Very cool find. I'm learning a lot on here about artifacts - never knew what a Discoidal was until now. I think I have one - not found by me but passed to me from an Uncle who passed. We always figured it was something Native American. Would it be appropriate for me to post a picture of it here even though I did not find it?

Post it on a new thread and tell it’s story. It will get more attention and I too would like to see a picture of it as well.