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  1. #16

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    NYS Archeologist Wm. Ritchie postulates, "I believe (plummets) were employed as sinkers in hook-and-line or trot-line fishing, and in the first capacity they might have performed the additional service of sounding or feeling the bottom..."
    His Plate 35 photographs in The Archeology of New York State show a plummet practically identical to mine, which is pictured here. Ritchie puts its age at 4000 years bp to 5000 years bp. Awesome.

    My only comment is this: seems like a lot of work for a fishing weight...

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    Prof. Shellman

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    Pic of Oregon piece I keep for reference. Some were definitely FINERY, some utilitarian.
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    Prof. Shellman

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    Here's one suggested hafting, if it were a line weight...

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    Here is a grooved and knobbed plummet from RI...

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    Rhode Island, a personal favorite of mine.

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    From York Co., Maine:

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  5. #20

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    Most interesting.

  6. #21
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    Love those, all!

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    I have seen a hexagonal form in a fellow collectorís collection. Most that I have seen are made of Hematite, which is a very dense/heavy yet soft material.

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    Hardstone plummets

    That fishing lure configuration would make an excellent bottom jig with a little strip of clam on each hook. Iíve often wondered how NAs caught Cod Fish (deep water bottom dwellers)
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    Prof. Shellman

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    In FL for grouper and shark!
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ID:	1791669 And it's safe to say you dont see many like this...mjm
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  11. #26

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    I've read that , in certain areas of California at least, 'plummets' were used as charm stones that were suspended from a stick or tree branch above favoured fishing spots.

    I think this is as good an explanation as any for their precise function.

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    Prof. Shellman

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ID:	1791802pottery.... MANY plummets have a flat or flattish side.... and some plummets have two knobs or a groove down the center. Charl's grooved one is perfect..... for tying onto a long stick to use as a gig-weight...... what say you boom?
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    I was thinking the illustration of a fishing weight and hook rig looked a little "fishy" to me. Most plummets have a top knob groove that seems too shallow to hold up to the rigors of reeling in a fighting fish of much size? It also seems that plummets are also found in locations where fishing weights would not be expected to be needed, or found.
    I am liking the idea that they were some sort of loom weaving weights, as being one of the more plausible hypothesis out there. The thinner, smaller and flat sided plummet designs might play into such thoughts? Cool artifacts and awesome examples posted here !
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    Those are absolutely amazing I have a display case for artifacts like that and have looked for stuff like that for years it remains empty lol Thanks for sharing those really great finds Wow Tommy
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbeardrelics View Post
    I was thinking the illustration of a fishing weight and hook rig looked a little "fishy" to me. Most plummets have a top knob groove that seems too shallow to hold up to the rigors of reeling in a fighting fish of much size? It also seems that plummets are also found in locations where fishing weights would not be expected to be needed, or found.
    I am liking the idea that they were some sort of loom weaving weights, as being one of the more plausible hypothesis out there. The thinner, smaller and flat sided plummet designs might play into such thoughts? Cool artifacts and awesome examples posted here !
    Have you ever found any around your area ? Personally I have not and canít think of many local collections I see
    Them either
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    I would rather see an authentic broken scraper posted than a G-10 Artifake!

 

 
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