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    Paleo Era Hardaway Dalton

    Hello,
    Pictures speak more than words. So here were are. Pho e camera is a bit scratched sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgychris View Post
    Hello,
    Pictures speak more than words. So here were are. Pho e camera is a bit scratched sorry.
    Its old n rare and cool and not lucky. Hard work son..
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    Did you find that at your spot on beach? I like it. Is back edge smoothed?
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    Looks like a dalton or a Santa Fe, but I think Santa Fe's are found in the south. I could be wrong...anyways nice finds.
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    Thats how we do it. Pretty cool relics
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    Sure looks like a Dalton, but not a Hardaway Dalton. Great looking point that really had to make your day!
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    Same material as in the book. That's pretty amazing. Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddsPoint View Post
    Same material as in the book. That's pretty amazing. Gary
    Its perfect. Thr best way I Can put it. No abnormalities. Semi serrated. Intense peice. Very happy. Tha ks for your appreciation.
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    Nice point. It can sometimes be confusing to collectors who live in the home region for Hardaway-Daltons, North Carolina. I sometimes wonder if the late Jeff Boudreau regretted choosing this temporary name for these New England points. I never had the chance to ask him, regrettably, and we miss his guidance greatly. I say regret, because, by and large, New England Hardaway-Daltons simply do not resemble the form of this type from North Carolina. For this reason, in fact, Jeff pointed out that these points have never been found in a dated context in New England, and that, if and when that happens, they will be described and assigned their own unique name.

    I have been lucky enough to find several over the years, as has my wife. You can also find some of the examples Jeff included in his New England typology on display at the Robbins Museum of the Massachusetts Archaeological Society.

    Here is one of ours, found in Ma., and just to show the variability in form, some showing notches and ears. Boudreau mentioned that these are very seldom found broken, having been used as knives, and when frequently worked down to small size, examples such as the OP’s can become extraordinarily difficult to distinguish from some later triangles from this region....

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    Sometimes, as with this quartzite example from RI, our New England examples actually do resemble Hardaway-Dalton points from their home region:

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    My favorite quartz example, my wife’s find. Sometimes the basal concavity can approach that of a Debert fluted point, and this does have flute-like thinning on one side....

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    Basal thinning:

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    A recent find, erose blade edge, squared off corner, a la Dalton, and greatly resharpened. RI personal find...

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    OK, the purplish rhyolite triangle in this frame from the Robbins was included in Boudreau’s typology, and this 2 1/2” example would be regarded as a classic example of a New England Hardaway-Dalton:

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    An exhibit in the Robbins Museum. Here we can see how difficult some of these would prove to be when trying to distinguish from later triangles:

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    And here are Hardaway-Dalton points from North Carolina, illustrating why confusion can reign when calling our New England points seen in this thread by the same name. Second row from the top and the two far right points in top row are Hardaway-Daltons...

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    Dang Charl all I get are invalid attachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsbury View Post
    Dang Charl all I get are invalid attachments.
    Yep, beats me. When I go into edit, they show. Otherwise, they do not. No biggie, but I can no longer post links or photos by the looks of it.

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    That's not good. You have lots to share

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    Quote Originally Posted by welsbury View Post
    That's not good. You have lots to share
    Thank you, and right back at ya! Anyway, seem to have figured it out, using different photos....

 

 
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