Feeder creek finds

[Illini Rockhound]

Found these in a feeder creek in southern Illinois. The blade is my biggest yet. Going to take my son out tomorrow. Any info regarding age/culture would be appreciated. I want to look like I know a thing or two when we go out tomorrow. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!

 

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[BobGuy]

Quick guesses here but I’d say the big one is a Matanzas and the small a Godar. Nice finds!

 

[ToddsPoint]

The big point looks like it's made from Elko (Elco?) flint from So. IL. It is a Dover look-a-like. Gary