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Here?s a few more shots of it. Glad it?s getting some appreciation. Maybe you can see my dilemma in not being certain it didn?t turn out this way originally as opposed to the far more common line of thinking that it was reworked.
...To me, this looks like a broken point reworked into a spokeshave..
 

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...I just looked up Stockton mounds archeology report 1923 and kinda once over speed read/red it.
... bones of deer, elk, sheep, duck, wild goose and rabbit were noted. I stopped when they were digging human bones..
 

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Mucker, Fat has a point, especially where we see the larger Stockton?s that can run between 2-3 inches. The point would pierce very effectively and then as the arrow(these were used at the advent of the bow and arrow, so they are post atlatl/dart) would move in all manner of direction, the serrations would be causing catastrophic damage to blood vessels and tissue etc. Stockton?s have also been said to develop during a time of warfare/territory skirmishes between groups in and near the distribution area of the point, but it?s just a likely it was developed as an effective hunter instrument correlating with an increase in large fauna hunting like deer and elk and so on. The smaller little birdies(quote un quote) in the cluster could?ve been for spearing fish and certainly for smaller game. The skill level and experience with obsidian had reached a high point and it?s been said that Stockton?s were manufactured by specialist knappers for trade.
Added: They were also said to have been used as saws and I have a few with blunted tips that seem like they made good little cutters.

Thanks for that follow up. A lot of good info there. No doubt the ancients were specialist with obsidian. And a wide range of amazing artifacts were made from obsidian.
But I have learned that the size of the point is not always relative to the size of the game. This has been demonstrated thoroughly by modern primitive hunters and in the inspection of the bones of the large animals that were killed. The Birdie tag has always bothered me. That?s just me.
Great information from your personal observations and personal finds. I have heard that pronounced serrations on blades are sometimes an indication of a saw type tooling purpose.
But the accentuated thick and deep serrations on a tiny arrowhead argues itself against it being an effective saw. This is where size matters I think.
There are a lot of these deeply serrated obsidian points found out west. We don?t find anything like them here. I?m always intrigued by them.

Sorry to take this down a rabbit hole antmike915
 

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Thanks for that follow up. A lot of good info there. No doubt the ancients were specialist with obsidian. And a wide range of amazing artifacts were made from obsidian.
But I have learned that the size of the point is not always relative to the size of the game. This has been demonstrated thoroughly by modern primitive hunters and in the inspection of the bones of the large animals that were killed. The Birdie tag has always bothered me. That?s just me.
Great information from your personal observations and personal finds. I have heard that pronounced serrations on blades are sometimes an indication of a saw type tooling purpose.
But the accentuated thick and deep serrations on a tiny arrowhead argues itself against it being an effective saw. This is where size matters I think.
There are a lot of these deeply serrated obsidian points found out west. We don?t find anything like them here. I?m always intrigued by them.

Sorry to take this down a rabbit hole antmike915

The artifact rabbit hole :laughing7: so many theories; so much discussions. We don't have obsidian down south here either. Always appreciate your comments MA.
 

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