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    Quote Originally Posted by etex View Post
    Yes, a Roman sword, that wasn't a Roman Sword
    That was the other whack job that had a boatload of crazy theories. There was no evidence that the sword even was found near oak island.

    The most convincing evidence was the descendants of the original boys that found the pit and claimed the gold cross they had was pretty much all that was left of the treasure the boys found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzahk View Post
    I imagine that now most of the money comes from sponsorship, advertising and selling the rights to the TV show. I doubt that much of the brothers money is being spent these days. The show draws huge ratings..
    You'd have better odds betting on me getting struck by lightening while watching the World Series game tonight than those dummies finding anything anywhere .
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    Wolter emailed me years ago with an Offer , I turned him down .
    The Laginas emailed me with questions

    reason being
    I wrote a few Fictional Post on some forums way back in the Day

    here is one of the post from one of the old forums , It's pure fiction I wrote , but it grew wings thanks
    to the Media Pimps who sell airtime for their crap shows that only Morons would believe in .

    Copy Pasted from Oakislandtreasure.uk circa 2003

    Begin Text copy~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ok , here is an Early Copy of my fictional Knights Templar Connection to Oak Island .

    Time stamp
    Dated 2003 , I know I wrote earlier than that on other forums using the same storyline .
    But , the challenge is to find some other person's Text that predates my fiction .

    copy pasted from Oakislandtreasure.uk
    I am Hippie on that forum back then

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    by hippie on Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:08 pm Gentlemen
    What Oak Island has is a depository of Knights Templar Articles.
    The Treasure is obtained by entering the shafts and or tunnels.
    The entrance to these tunnels will be found through the leylines of the Golden mean.
    Stones, with drill holes have been found on the island.
    These are your increment stones.
    The holes will be a certain depth
    each inch = 1ft.
    If the hole in the stone is 12 inches deep , then the increment is 1 inch per foot.
    Measure the distance to the next stone, note how many inches you come up with, say you come up with 123, this means your diagonal line from your southeast corner to your northeast corner will equal 123 feet, this will be the long line of the ley line of the golden mean, You will be looking to set a golden rectangle by this increment.
    Where the ley lines intersect on that rectangle, is one of your entrances to the tunnels that will safely get you into one of the vaults.
    Next, you must begin to arc the golden spiral, where the spiral cross's the ley lines, there you will find more entrance's to more vaults.
    Your next step is to leyout the golden triangle and the Golden circle, remembering that it is 1/3 of the circle that is the portion you are looking for, note that where the lines of the triangle cross the bisect of the circle is your next entrance.
    Perhaps it is best, that you take an ariel photo, mark the locale of each stone with the holes that have been found. overlay the photo with clear plastic, set you degrees at 36 and 76 for the ley lines, and see what you come up with.
    This is the KEY to the chest.
    A study of Pythagorean Geometry, fibbonacci number sequence, and the golden mean would help.
    The date on the stone of 1704 is not a date, it is an increment.
    this is part of the esoteric knowledge used for these burials.
    The alchemy symbols for such are in the area.
    The Hippie ,,,,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~ End copy pasted Text ~~~~~~~~~~~

    The above was written right off the cuff . It is fiction , and it was fun to write .

    Interestingly ,,,, it somehow grew Wings and flew like a 757 across Media exploitation .

    Did I do that ? or was this material about the Knights being here to deposit treasure written somewhere before
    I created the Fictional Story ?

    Let's try , shall we , maybe ,,, just maybe , the Knights Really did bury Treasure here , and used
    the Golden Mean as well as Leylines to pick the sites for their Vaults .

    ( Oh boy ,,, a Joke of mine took wings ,, shame on me )
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    Next Post of mine from that same forum and timeline

    Granted , I must have Been on a Starbucks Binge .

    copy pasted from 2003 Oakislandtreasure.uk forum

    pure fiction from my finger tips ( yes , I signed it Rog' ,,, short for Roger Snow )

    begin copied post ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    by hippie on Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:24 am Hi Tank, Not to worry, It is hard to rattle me.
    This is my first visit to this site.
    On my formulas and where they come from, or as you state it, " how do I know this ?
    I am the descendant of the Grand Master Ruxillias of the Knights Templar, circa 1651, as well, My linage is that of Huges duPayen.
    Huges, was from the Monastery where Dagobert the II was exiled to after his overthrow by the Carolingians, Dag, was what is known as the last Merovingian King of Middle Europe.
    This linage is said to be that of the Saan Grael, known as the Holy Grail, or better stated, Translated loosly from the Latin, Holy blood (Saan Graael)
    The Esoteric Knowledge is handed Down through the Linage of the Holy Blood line of King David through to the first Merovingian King and unto the first Grand master of the Knights Templar, which was Huges Du Payan,
    The Sacred Geometry outlined above in my prior post, is the Key to many ancient sites and structures of the Ancients.
    Much is Laid out to the Geometric design Pythagoras Attributed to Element #47 out of Euclids book #1 of the 13 books of Euclids elements.
    This Geometry is relative to all sites within the Ancient Esoteric and Arcane arena. It is the foundation by which The Pyramids at Giza are set and as well as that of other sites inclusive in these is the Cities of Atlantis.
    Yeah, Atlantis is real.
    As is appearent unto all who have attempted to discover the Mystery of the design implemented in the Construction of the Oak Island Vaults and channels (tunnels) The designers were above the mainstream populace in their Knowledge of constructing such a baffeling maze of stumbling blocks and shafts to protect this one site, as well, even today, with the Technology extent, We struggle greatly to unravel this site.
    This is evident in and of it's self that the construction and design is "NOT" that of the simple Pirate,
    Simply, the site is one that was very cleverly planned, and replacates those vaults of the Ancients that have yet to be discovered.
    A simple demonstration of the Knowledge that the Grand Masters of the Knights Templar were the inhieritors of is the Fact that they were able to enter King Tuts tomb nearly 900 years ago and remove objects more precious then Gold, without the burden of removing the Mass of stones covering the tomb as did Carter and Canarvon had to remove.
    This was done, and articles removed, then the 4 doors resealed, and the few stones blocking the channel under the rest of the stones replaced without causing a cave-in. The knowledge of this construction, may have been retrived in Constantinople during the Crusades, where it had been taken by the Zealots who had Sacked the Great Library at Alexandria back in the 4th century, As well, Huges and the other 8 Knights, may have recovered from the Holy land the Documents with the information within them a century before the invasion of Constantinople.
    Either way, it was somewhat mind boggeling to Carter that someone had opened the Tomb of Tut, and did not Bother to take ALL the treasure from within, and they were not in a rush, for they took the time to reseal the doors with plaster, and as Carter thought, Heave all the stones back in place, so it is not as though they did not have the time to take all the treasure , nor is it a matter of them being caught, for the items they took, were not placed back in the tomb as they would ahve been if the looters ahd been caught, simply, what was removed meant more to the retrievers then the gold and jewels of Tut, and as well, the Knights Templar already had more Gold and Jewels at their disposal then they ever needed, so why burden themselves further ? ( must be nice to have that much, don't ya' think ?)
    The Drag marks of trunks being removed from the Tomb and drug OUT the doors on a prior raid of the tomb, were still in extent upon Carters opening the Tomb some 7 hundred years later.
    Carter must have went to his Grave Bothered Greatly by that Mystery.
    I can well imagine he did.
    On a futher note,,,,,
    One may find within the seals of Solomon, and in the Ancient Hebraic Alchemy, all the symbols for such Geometry and the increments of measure, as well as many other features pertaining to Matters of the spirit.
    The Ancient Kabbalah, is a set of symbols, each with a mathmatical equivalent, for instance : Pythagoras attached the letter "Y" to element #47, this Geometric design, per his Theorem, was the Key to the Transmigration of the soul from one being or body unto a higher one.
    Well,,,, Thats what his theory states. so don't bug me about it MAN
    On the Hippie conotations. I would like to point out that Hippism is not a drug based paradigmn,( no matter how the media attempted to portray it)
    It is about consciousness, one closely aligned with the teachings of Both Jesus Christ and Pythagoras, whereas , PEACE AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WERE THE PARAMOUNT ELEMENTS OF THAT CONSCIOUSNESS.
    Funny, but I notice as I reviewed the community of Pythagoras, how it appeared to me that this Community surely must have been the contemporary HIPPIE COMMUNE of Greece at the time. well, just a cute observation to add here in the midst of all the esoteric dialog.
    Lets see, I guess I shall at this point throw out a theory as to where exactly the Oak Island Articles came from and why they were deposited there at the island. ( please, keep in mind that i have for the most part read a hugh amount of other theories, and I do not discount them, and this should not be taken as an opurtunity to open a debate with myself by others, I allow them their theories, without attcking such, and in a fair exchange, May they allow me mine, without attack )
    As I hav'nt the time to look back on the exact date of this event, I am going to just use for the momment a supposed date, this being done without refering to notes. so please, do not pick the time-stamp apart, geeees-its ! Thank you.
    In or ABOUT? 1602, "ROUGHLY", and in answer to the Church once again targeting the knights Templar in yet another inquitition, by which to frame them for heresy and thereby obtain the Knights land holdings and wealth. The Knights found that perhaps it was time for a little retribution to be paid back to the Church, They brought their combined ships and Harbored them, then, paying off the sentinels, entered the Vaults within the Catacombs beneath the Vatican, They raided and looted these vaults, loaded the loot upon their ships and set sail for the New World.
    The deposit at Oak Island, is but a small portion of that loot taken from the Vaults, Some of this loot comprised some of the Templar Treasure that the Church had unjustly taken control of in the 14th century during King Phillipes frame job of the Knights, of Friday the 13th 1307.
    This looting of the Vatican Vaults was retailiation for the unjust lynchings of the Knights to gain control of their wealth, and as well, was simply taking back from thieves what was originally stolen from the Knights. The looting was kept hushed by a Vatican which felt secrecy about it would best serve the purpose of trying to retrieve the goods.
    Interesting to note, it was The Knights Templar who had found the Gold of King Solomon, and it is as well interesting to note that Huges du Payan was a direct descendant of King Solomon, so you might say, Huges was recieving his rightful legacy after almost 2000 years, It was this gold that was part of the loot the Knights took back from the Vatican which the Church had Tortured and killed for 300 years earlier.
    Something to ponder, What did Saunier find in Rennes, that substantiated the Claims of this Bloodline, That caused the vatican to allow Saunier pretty much a free lincense. It was not so much gold he found, yes, he did find wealth, but it was Documents and evidence he found that was more devastating to the Church. Documents that told of the Bloodline of Christ, the holy blood. The real divine right to rule bloodline. uh,,, debate it all you wish, never the less, it is true. but hey, I ain't sellin' no books on it. so sheeesh-its already.
    Anyway, that is a side note.
    Rog'
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    Get it ?

    I have Scott Wolter's email to me , offering a Film Deal , it's in my Drafts file , in fact , I posted it on this forum back when .

    I turned his Scamming down .

    Funny thing , it's all fiction . The Templars took the Ark of the Covenant from King Tut's Tomb ?!!!!!

    Oh GAWD bless me , that's Gold right there folks .

    I write fiction , it's what I do , and Lagina's , Wolter , many others saw Money in my Fiction .

    swear man , I'll post Wolter's email to me on my forum .

    He gave Fiction a Life man , and made Money like a Fiend .

    That's the only truth to it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by treasminder2 View Post
    Get it ?

    I have Scott Wolter's email to me , offering a Film Deal , it's in my Drafts file , in fact , I posted it on this forum back when .

    I turned his Scamming down .

    Funny thing , it's all fiction . The Templars took the Ark of the Covenant from King Tut's Tomb ?!!!!!

    Oh GAWD bless me , that's Gold right there folks .

    I write fiction , it's what I do , and Lagina's , Wolter , many others saw Money in my Fiction .

    swear man , I'll post Wolter's email to me on my forum .

    He gave Fiction a Life man , and made Money like a Fiend .

    That's the only truth to it .
    That's quite a story and imagination to write it you got treasminder. Post the replies you got; it would be entertaining. However even without further evidence anyone with half a brain knows the whole bunch on that stupid island are buffoons.

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    Season 4 is here—and this time Rick and Marty Lagina claim they’re closer to the island’s elusive treasure than ever before. Indeed, Rick calls his eight years on Oak Island a “roller coaster ride,” and long-time viewers of his show would have to agree. But what makes the brothers so confident that Season 4 will be the one where they finally hit paydirt?

    For one thing, it looks like they might be putting an end to one method of exploration—and opening up all new avenues in the process. “We’re gonna do one more diver,” Rick says, in the just-released Curse of Oak Island Season 4 preview, “and, if he can’t do it, we’re done with divers.” And it looks like the machinery the Laginas are using could be the biggest the show has yet seen: “We’re gonna dig a big hole in the Money Pit,” Rick tells us, at another point, from behind the controls of an enormous excavator, “and find out what’s there….That’s where it started, and that’s where we need to make it end.”
    “Nothing engages people like the search for treasure,” Marty adds. And he reflects on the island’s tangled past—and the show’s entanglement within that past. “We’re a part of history, now,” Marty says. “I’m ready to get into it.”
    With that determination in mind, here’s the newest Curse of Oak IslandSeason 4 trailer:

    As for the discontent among some of the show’s fans that it’s all speculation without evidence—or, more specifically, that History is more interested in ratings than facts? Well, Curse of Oak Island executive producer addressed that very question during a Reddit AMA promoting the show, and his response certainly got observers talking. Here’s his response in full:
    Well, first of all, we never present anything that isn’t fact. In other words, if I put a period at the end of a sentence in anything I do, it has been checked and double-checked and it’s as factual as we can determine. That’s why people who watch for example ANCIENT ALIENS have to understand that a lot of that show is deliberately based on a theory, and theories are by definition speculative. Even Darwin’s theory of Evolution is a theory. The Big Bang Theory is a theory, it is not fact, although some places want to try to treat it as fact, but most religions of the world, even though they are often treated as fact, are theories. It doesn’t mean they are not true, just means that they have not been proven to be true.
    But if we put a period at the end of a sentence — it means that, to the best of OUR research and knowledge, then it is true. For example, the CURSE OF OAK ISLAND is not pseudo-science or pseudo-history — it is history with speculative theory attached to it, because we don’t know what’s down there, we just know people have been looking for something for 200 years.
    Look — no less than Franklin D. Roosevelt, in his 20’s, spent a lot of time on Oak Island looking to solve the mystery. And when he was president, he even thought enough of Oak Island to write a letter, which the team up there has, that he wrote during WWII asking how things were progressing and if any progress had been made. For those people who take issues with shows like ANCIENT ALIENS, I would just say that history is being written and re-written and re-discovered and re-proven every day. When I was a kid, growing up, the notion that Leif Erickson and the Vikings came to North America was considered an outrageous theory, which was later proven to be true. Bones in museums of dinosaurs, everyone thought they were arranged one way, until they found out they were wrong for all those years. So in other words, people who watch these shows have to be open to the idea that theory is as much a part of History and Science as fact.
    Here’s another case in point: one of the early criticisms of ANCIENT ALIENS was that it was “colonialist.” And by that, I mean that academics took issue with that the show was suggesting that native people of South America or Egypt could not have built these extraordinary structures or had extraordinary technology, and that it was a kind of White european male prejudice that said “Oh, well they could not have done it, it must have been aliens.” Well, my answer to that is: We — meaning the show, or the ancient astronaut theorists — don’t say that aliens built the pyramids, or had that technology. It’s the people who built the pyramids who say that. Because it’s on the tombs and temples, written on the walls, from these same people whom everyone believes are the native people, they claim their technology and culture comes from beings who came from the stars. In other words, all we do on the show say is “What if it were true? What if the people who built the pyramids — who did murals devoted to Isis and Osiris and these ancient Egyptian deities, who were all supposedly coming from the sky — what if they were right? What if Moses is history? What if Jesus is history? What if Buddhism and Islam are history? What if all of these ancient cultures — Native American, hindu, you name it — they are right, and we are wrong, with our Western Science?”
    A friend I went to film school with, in Boston, is from India, and he and his crew often help us when we do a shoot in India. And when I first called him, he said “you’re finally coming around.” I said “What do you mean” and he said “Well, for you, this is theory. For us, in India, this is all history.” Because in India, they don’t consider this pseudo-history. In India, they consider Ancient Aliens history.
    I think the problem with too much of our educational system is that we put too many periods at the end of sentences, when we should still be putting question marks.
    So: Get ready for more high-stakes treasure hunting drama and viewer manipulation controversy! Curse of Oak Island Season 4 premieres Tuesday, November 15 at 9 PM on History.
    RELATED ARTICLES: Did Curse of Oak Island find the treasure? Spoilers offer strongest evidence yet
    Is Curse of Oak Island fake? Speculation grows alongside show’s popularity
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    I'll quote that goofy producer

    " Well, first of all, we never present anything that isn’t fact. In other words, if I put a period at the end of a sentence in anything I do, it has been checked and double-checked and it’s as factual as we can determine. That’s why people who watch for example ANCIENT ALIENS have to understand that a lot of that show is deliberately based on a theory, and theories are by definition speculative. """ ~~~~~~~~ End quote ~~~~~~~

    Yeah



    and that entire show , the concept came from the FICTION , I wrote as early as 1999 through 2008 on vaious Forums as my 2003
    copied Text shows .

    These Clowns took a Fictional write up of mine on a Funky scam forum , and wrapped a Sensationalized Histrionic
    around it .

    Can I evidence that comment ?

    Indeed I can

    the they refute my statement , and prove that they thunk it up all on their own ?

    Nope .
    they can't even evidence those Ebay Bought phony artifacts they promote as Knights Templar .

    btw , there's more to tell ,

    same crap was done with material of mine on : ancientlosttreasures.com forum

    one of the script writers for the Film " National Treasure " joined the forum and flat wrapped his story around my postings .

    several of the members on this forum , in fact , about 20 of them here , watched it go down .

    That's the challenge I proffered , for these people to show me an earlier date on any Text , where it is stated the Knights Templar
    came to the Western Hemisphere and secreted away treasure in Vaults they Built "

    None exist .

    as I stated , I wrote it initially as fiction on forums . No One , not a single person , anywhere I search , had
    written a thing concerning the KT coming to this hemisphere , much less them bringing Treasure and building Vaults .

    Scott Wolter scammed the public with Fiction I wrote .

    just that simple .
    Just that True

    and as we read here in this forum , He's not the only one .

    I'm awaiting " Finderskeepers " to come forward with any evidence that he had prior clues or text about it .

    H311's getting colder .



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    Yepper
    Been said , I can tell a story,
    but thanks Gas Pipe .
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    here's the link
    Note the Bashing by trolls
    then jump to page 9 where those same trolls switch horses and claim themselves experts on Knights Templar 2 years later

    This link is " Revealing " ,,, don't you agree Wolter/Laginas ?

    Oak Island Treasure ? View topic - A MESSAGE FROM DAVID TOBIAS OF TRITON ALLIANCE

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    now for page 9 , you will note that after two years , The Capt. Kid connection is dropped , and
    Knights Templar is installed as the depositors .

    Interesting read . and to clarify , I'm the " Hippie " being referred to . I posted as Hippie , a look at my current avatar
    reveals why .

    link to page 9

    Oak Island Treasure ? View topic - A MESSAGE FROM DAVID TOBIAS OF TRITON ALLIANCE

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    And so , when we clear the smoke and mirrors produced by Wolter ,
    we can see the genesis of where his material came from .

    Wolter and Laginas could not possibly pull Knights Templar Treasure from the Island ,
    for it is not there ,,,
    it never was Knights Templar
    The story line is Fiction and you cannot turn my fiction into Reality no matter how large a hole you dig .

    as I stated , if my fiction back then matched historical fact ,,, That'd be a unbelievable coincidence .

    UN-Believable ,,, know what I mean ?

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    Would the readers enjoy a few more pages from that Forum concerning this ?

    You may not be able to access all of my postings there , I however can , and it gets really really ,,,, FUN to read

    I believe Lagina and Wolter might find it a bit ,,,, welllll ,,, toooooooo revealing .

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    Was I the only one that saw the episode where the old Lady, or sisters maybe, showed up with proof the treasure was found years ago, and kept quite?

    As long as people keep watching, the show will go on, and on, and on..........
    Two rules in life: Don't sweat the small stuff.

    It's all small stuff.

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    I hope that they discover treasure or give up, so we can watch other treasures shows. Good hunting and good luck.

 

 
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